Star Trek/Legion of Super-Heroes #4

[superboyprime]

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[darkknightjrk]

Oh come now, I'm not a Trek master, but I thought Kirk was more about the green-skinned women? :P

Speaking of lack of Trek knowledge, who's Flint?

[icon_uk]

Kirk really is colour blind?

Flint is an immortal from the Star Trek TOS episode "Requiem for Methuselah", he claimed to have been, amongst others; Alexander the Great, Lazarus, Leonardo DaVinci, Johannes Brahms, King Solomon, Merlin, Methuselah and Reginald Pollack.

[shadowpsykie]

heh, so they found a valid way to tie them together ;D

[jeyl]

Want to know something funny? Kirk never once slept with a green skinned alien woman. In fact, the only episode that has a green skin girl with Kirk (not Pike) is in "Whom Gods Destroy" and... I know this is going to come as a shock... he turned down her advances.

Kirk NEVER slept with nor went out of his way to "have his way" with a green alien woman. This was just something that the general population assumed that unfortunately became a staple. And since Star Trek is now being made by the general population, they have now turned that incorrect assumption into a reality.

Ugh. I miss DS9.

[icon_uk]

Unless you count the new movie, where he definitely does seem to be involved with Uhura's room-mate.

[jeyl]

As I said...

"And since Star Trek is now being made by the general population, they have now turned that incorrect assumption into a reality."

[icon_uk]

Though, in fairness, I don't think we have ever had a comprehensive list of Kirk's... amourous history spelled out for us, so we just have to play the odds, and chances are somewhere along the line a green skinned woman featured.

[jeyl]

Indeed there was a green skinned woman featured in Kirk's adventures. In fact, it was the only appearance of another Orion outside of "The Cage/The Menagerie". It was in an episode called "Whom Gods Destroy". Kirk is captured on a prison planet and one of the green Orion girls actually tries to seduce him. And wouldn't you know it, Kirk turns her down.

[icon_uk]

Well yes he did, but that is more likely because she was an inmate in an asylum for the criminally insane at the time. (She was also, of course, played by Yvonne "Batgirl" Craig... I'm sure there's an Arkham/poison Ivy riff I could make about this, but I just can't think of one offhand)

[jeyl]

And don't forget the animated series episode that featured an Orion woman he didn't even attempt to flirt with.

[icon_uk]

Ah, but Gene Rodenberry consistently denied that the animated series was canonical. :P

Never exactly sure WHY that was the case, to be honest....

[jeyl]

Gene Roddenberry. Oh, Gene, Gene, Gene. He gave us Star Trek and for that I will always be forever thankful.

BUT... he was not the best caretaker, producer, or writer. In fact, a lot of writers for both TNG and TOS have said it was next to impossible writing a story for Star Trek because Gene had so much control on how he wanted it to play out. The fact that he calls officially licensed material that's written by the the same writers, acted by the same actors and features his NAME IN THE TITLE "Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek", of course he should say that stuff shouldn't count.

I think this whole canon issue is stupid. There are some really great moments in the animated series that I find more enjoyable than a majority of Voyager and Enterprise. We see Uhura take command of the Enterprise (Something we never see Uhura come close to doing at all, both here and in JJ's Trek), we get to see Robert April, the first bona fide Captain of the Enterprise, and more Tribbles! There's good material here. The only reason I see as to why it's not canon is simply because it's animated. That's insulting. I know there it's been said that this was done because the quality of the animation and stories wasn't on par with the original series, but the original series wasn't really a show runner for quality story telling either, and Gene played a major part in that (Omega Glory and Turnabout Intruder).

So yeah. I consider the animated series canon. It's good, it broadens Star Trek's lore, has pretty cool new characters, and some very mature story lines for a kids show at the time.

It's a pity JJ's team still holds true to the "no film, no canon" clause. If Nero was half the character he was in the "Countdown" and "Nero" comics, he would have been one of Trek's more unique villains instead of a convenient plot device to get the crew conveniently together.

[arbre_rieur]

Of course, by that logic, you'd have to treat the original series as only semi-canonical as well, as that was Roddenberry's stance when he was doing TNG.