Young Avengers Children's Crusade #8

[shadowpsykie]

First off, Billy Calls shenanigans on the Avengers and he X-Men.







Doom was behind DisAssembled?


Scott flies inside Giant Doom to distract him while Billy and Wanda work some magic. (Its a VERY touching scene). It appears Scott was smoosed... Cassie is NOT amused.



Fallen Avenger?

Comments

[darkknightjrk]

So why was Doom wearing his standard green cloak and mask at one scene and was all white and Secret Wars-y in another? I thought he sucked up some of Wanda's power or something?

Also, between this stuff and the little bits I'm seeing in Alias, I'm starting to get curious about Scott Lang and what his deal is, because I literally know NOTHING about him.

[auggie18]

I like Billy's pointing out that Gambit was a member of the Thieves Guild instead, say, the Marauders, who actually murdered a freaking ton of people. Then again, I was he might not have known that about Gambit. Then again again, how did he know about the Thieves Guild?


Not seeing Cassie's death sticking.


This is going to have some long reaching consequences in Marvel, assuming something doesn't happen in the last issue to retcon the whole freaking thing.

[salinea]

Doom was white and Secret Wars-y when he had sucked up Wanda's (the Life Force) power. Then Wanda and Wiccan reopened the portal, and Doom ended up scared and green again. The scans here were posted out of order (I presume in order for Cassie's fate to be parsed more easily by the s_d readers).

[darkknightjrk]

Ah. That makes sense.

[lascoden]

I think Doom was lying about being responsible. Someone on a CBR forum, I think, made a pretty good argument that he lied to help Wanda, plus he was in hell at the time. Also, there's one more issue, so I doubt Stature is really dead.

[shadowpsykie]

yeah sorry about that, i wanted to show the "talking to" the "Spoiler" and them finding cassie (cause and effect wise).

[avantre]

Haven't The Powers that Be at Marvel have been saying that The Children's Crusade, along with a couple of other storylines ending around the same time, were going to have a major impact on their universe's storyline? based on that I wouldn't look for a next-issue retcon on anything except maybe Cassie.

[salinea]

Yeah, that's how I read it as well.

[stolisomancer]

Billy has had time to sit around secret bases with nothing to do but read the Avengers' files, which they routinely share with the X-Men. The Thieves' Guild, as per Gambit's first ongoing, is really just a bunch of happy-go-lucky sneak thieves with powers in New Orleans.

[spacebetween]

The fact that Billy calls them out on the number of reformed villians on X-Men and Avengers was sheer brillance.

[cypherfdp]

Really, that mind-control panel could have been just one big shot of Wolverine and that would have made the point.

Scott Lang

[jazzypom]

Was a thief (or into something really dodgy), that caused Cassie's mum to leave him (and marry a policeman), he reformed, and became an Avenger. He didn't get on with Jack of Hearts at first, but they became close towards the end of Jack's life (when Jack pretty much decided to end it all, because of various circumstances). Scott Lang's ex wife (Cassie's mum) had custody of his kid, and Cassie would visit the mansion from time to time growing up.

Scott got killed when Jack of Hearts came back to the mansion and got blown up (I'm being vague because yeah).

Not many people know about Gambit and the Marauders

[jazzypom]

Wasn't that such a secret that only Sabertooth knew (and eventually told Rogue) for some time? I confess I haven't read X-men comics in a while, but that was told in the late 1980s, early 1990s.

[espanolbot]

The Marauders don't count, on account of the Morlock's don't count. On account of they ugly.

Re: Scott Lang

[icon_uk]

IIRC Scott was blackmailed into helping a bad guy commit crime in order to afford medical treatment that Cassie needed to survive.

[icon_uk]

Not sure how well known Gambit's time as a Marauder would be known beyond X-Men files, as opposed to his frequently mentioned membership of the Thieves Guild.

Re: Scott Lang

[jazzypom]

IIRC Scott was blackmailed into helping a bad guy commit crime in order to afford medical treatment that Cassie needed to survive.

Ahhh, point.

[icon_uk]

"Scott, you can't let him stay, he tried to KILL Magma and the rest of the team"

"Emma, If we turned away a every X-Men who'd tried to kill us because of mind control, we'd have no one left on the team"

Emma and Scott discuss post-Necrohsa Doug staying on Utopia.

[arilou_skiff]

Yeah, that's definitely what it feels like.

And totally in-character for Doom.

[cainofdreaming]

Well, Gambit wasn't really part of the team. He just helped Sinister assemble them, in exchange for his power reduction if I recall that right. The whole explanation was probably just too long to include.

[cainofdreaming]

Wiccan - "And some of you might still have brain control implants from your secret backgrounds. Like if I say badubbidubbidoo they go..."

Wolverine - "Quack! Quack! Quack!"

Scott - "Okay. Point. Someone stop him before he tries to fly off the cliff."

[dewinged]

I think Doom's telling the truth. It's a bit of a retcon, but rescues Wanda's character, and hopefully allows M-Day to be undone.

[salinea]

it's not what you'd call a satisfying reveal, what with the fact it makes absolutely no sense on any level.

[shadowpsykie]

how does it not make sense? (IMHO NON of what Wanda did makes sense, this makes more sense than that)

[shadowpsykie]

teehee :D