doctors say i'm the illest cuz i'm suffering from realness

[brooms]

Cue Quentin playing games with Logan's head.

Really fun read, 8/10, would recommend again!!!!

Comments

[greenmask]

I need input. Has anyone else felt like the Quentin in this title is just different to the original Quentin? Are these pages more like the old Quentin?

I have lost my way.

[cainofdreaming]

Exactly why Quentin isn't in a psychically induced coma is a constant mystery to me.

[icon_uk]

See, I just don't get playing Quentin as the vaguely cute anti-hero. He instilled a bloody RIOT at Xaviers, with complete disregard for human (and some mutant) life. This wasn't an act of mild rebellion, it was an all out assault because he felt it was his destiny to do so (and few things are harder to shift than a sense of absolute entitlement)

[icon_uk]

Those rarely end well...

[stolisomancer]

It's not like anyone could put him in one without a serious fight. He's supposed to be on Xavier's level.

[stolisomancer]

And if you read the main book, the only reason he's at the school as opposed to the Vault is because Logan's pretty sure doing that would turn Quire into a full-on supervillain, rather than the teenage punk he currently is. (His actions during Schism weren't actually lethal, after all.) They don't need one more of those, so Logan's operating on the assumption that he can kick Quire's ass hard enough to turn the kid into, at the very least, less of a threat.

[starwolf_oakley]

In Morrison's NEW X-MEN run, Quentin started the riot since he was angry a mutant fashion designer had gotten killed by humans, even though it turned out he had died of a Kick overdose.

I'm not sure what Quentin wants to do now, especially considering the low, low number of mutants.

[cainofdreaming]

They've got both Legion and Nate around, haven't they? In addition to the not-quite-godlike regulars. I'd say the deck is seriously stacked against him.

[qalchemist]

Well, to be fair, wasn't he under the effects of Kick at the time? Which means he was just a puppet for Sublime at the time.

[icon_uk]

But by starting the riot as he did, and showing no actual regret for it, he appears to already be well beyond the "teenage punk" stage.

[icon_uk]

Was the Sublime subplot ever properly wrapped up? Is Kick still around as a drug?

[stolisomancer]

Nate has been dramatically depowered as of recent issues of New Mutants, to the point where he's a very low-wattage telekinetic at the moment.

I would hesitate before I asked the dangerously unstable, frequently antagonistic Legion to deliberately neutralize another mutant. There's a reason why 95% of the storylines that involve Legion involve fighting Legion.

That leaves Emma, who probably can't do it; Psylocke, who definitely can't do it; Rachel, who probably can't do it without tapping into the same Phoenix Force that Quentin was once able to touch; and Xavier, who wouldn't do it unless Quentin left him with no other choice.

Remember, Quentin is absolutely convinced that he's the future leader of the X-Men. He's an enormous pain in the ass, not a clear and present danger.

[stolisomancer]

Sublime's plot was wrapped up, yeah. He was Kick, so there's no more Kick to be had.

[qalchemist]

I don't think so. Some people claiming to be working for Sublime recently attacked Utopia, so...

Presumably he's still out there!

[icon_uk]

Given that Legion is only as stable as he is through telepathic monitoring and therapy (and has some REALLY nasty personalities locked away), I shudder to think what the after affects of Quentin running a wrecking ball through Legion's mind might be.

And following his return in the New Mutants, Nate's powers are limited to minor TK at the moment, I don't think he has much in the way of telepathy any more.

Emma is perhaps the only one who could deal with him, and she's not at the School.

[stolisomancer]

Remember, Quentin has said on multiple occasions that he's pretty sure he's the future leader of the X-Men. He resents that they're treating him like a student when he's pretty sure he knows everything already, which is a pretty bog-standard reaction from a kid on his level.

Besides, this is the X-Men. Half the teachers are former criminals and the headmaster's a part-time assassin. I'm having a hard time why you, given your longtime X-fan nature, are harping on the Riot at Xavier's like it's the one characterization beat Quentin's ever had since then, because it really isn't.

[icon_uk]

Remember, Quentin has said on multiple occasions that he's pretty sure he's the future leader of the X-Men. He resents that they're treating him like a student when he's pretty sure he knows everything already, which is a pretty bog-standard reaction from a kid on his level.

A kid on his level doesn't have Omega-level telepathy on hand, meaning he can (and has) caused more chaos with a thought than most could manage with an army.

I'm having a hard time why you, given your longtime X-fan nature, are harping on the Riot at Xavier's like it's the one characterization beat Quentin's ever had since then, because it really isn't.

Given the internet standard, you think THIS is "harping on"?

I'm not even that big an X-Fan, I don't follow more than one and a bit titles, and they're not the major ones.

Morrison introduced Quire as a near-sociopathic, practically full-blown villain, a mini-Magneto (circa X-Men #1) more or less. Hence, one assumes his death at the end of the Riot arc, there was no way he'd have been kept on as a student. The one being depicted here seems little different.

[righthondude]

I still don't understand why this couldn't just be a storyline in WAtXM seeing as how it shares cast, setting etc

[stolisomancer]

Dogg, you're a big Cypher fan. The moment you are actually willing to defend '80s-era Doug Ramsey and back that shit up in a battle, you're a big X-Men fan whether you like it or not. Your fate is sealed.

You're complaining about a perceived lack of story beats because they took place in books you don't read. Quire showed back up in Schism for that scene where he decided to make all those diplomats uncontrollably confess on the floor of the UN, and after that, there's a scene that justifies his continued freedom on the first few pages of Wolverine and the X-Men #3.

[darkknightjrk]

I think it's accurate at a basic level--punk-ass kid who wants to dismantle Xavier's (now Logan's) vision. I think the difference is that in Morrison's run it was less genuine, more of a mix of teenaged anger and fashion statement. Now he utterly believes that he needs to destroy everything.

[darkknightjrk]

"Psylocke, who definitely can't do it;"

Didn't Dark Angel Saga bump her back up to an Omega-level psychic?

[jlbarnett]

someone just kill him.

[darkknightjrk]

"But by starting the riot as he did, and showing no actual regret for it,"

I just flipped through my copy of it, and when the Cuckoos mind-blast him out of commission and he finds out the blast cost one of the Cuckoos their lives, he did show genuine regret.

[icon_uk]

I stand corrected. He appears not to have learned much then.

[icon_uk]

Nah, being a Cypher fan, apart from showing I have exceptional taste, makes me a New Mutants fan, not a generalised X-Men fan (Just like being a Nightwing fan doesn't mean I automatically like all the other Bat-characters)

Quire showed back up in Schism for that scene where he decided to make all those diplomats uncontrollably confess on the floor of the UN

That better supports my POV I think. He either did it himself, or was manipulated into it by the Hellfire Club which makes him almost MORE dangerous.