scans_daily: AoA!Nightcrawler really isn't 616!Nightcrawler

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@ 2012-01-19 03:12 pm UTC

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char: deadpool/wade wilson, char: nightcrawler/kurt wagner, char: shadowcat/kitty pryde, char: wolverine/logan/james howlett, creator: jerome opena, creator: rick remender, title: uncanny x-force

AoA!Nightcrawler really isn't 616!Nightcrawler

And he wants us to know it.

(warning for mild sexist language)

Back in UXF19 when Logan told the school staff about X-Force:

And now

And for something completely different:

I want the fanfics in which the whole Agency X plays D&D.

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	no subject crinos 2012-01-19 02:52 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah... Deadpool is pretty much spot on there with what his dnd class is. Dual wielding proficiency, mutants as his favored enemy, alas though, wisdom score is too low to learn magic. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 10 comments) (Show 10 comments)

	no subject salinea 2012-01-19 02:56 pm UTC (link)
	Nevermind, I was misreading ^^ (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject salinea 2012-01-19 03:01 pm UTC (link)
	what do you figure for the rest of Agency X? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

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tsunamiwombat
2012-01-19 08:41 pm UTC (link)

Wolverine - Barbarian. CG.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/barbarian.htm

Psylocke - Soulknife. LN
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/classes/soulknife.htm

Fantomex - Wizard/Ranger, CG, Familiar: E.V.A
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/sorcererWizard.htm#wizard
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/ranger.htm

Deathlok - Warforged Fighter/Rogue
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/fighter.htm
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/rogue.htm

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	no subject salinea 2012-01-19 08:51 pm UTC (link)
	Agency X =/= Uncanny X-Force But i appreciate those anyway :) LOL they have a soulknife class XD (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject filthysize 2012-01-19 04:05 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I was gonna say... Is he saying he plays and that's what his character is or is he describing himself if he happens to be a D&D character? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject lencannon 2012-01-19 07:31 pm UTC (link)
	Rangers had to be a good alignment in AD&D >:( (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject salinea 2012-01-19 07:34 pm UTC (link)
	I KNOW RITE!!! omg now I want to see Wade deeply involved in an edition war discussion in which he starts shooting people for liking D&D4 over D&D3.5 or something. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject avantre 2012-01-20 02:00 am UTC (link)
	Rules are there to be ignored if you're the Dungeon Master and sufficiently interested in the outcome. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject terrykun 2012-01-19 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	Not to mention seamless switching between Melee and Ranged. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject arilou_skiff 2012-01-19 10:13 pm UTC (link)
	Except that Rangers were restricted to good alignments in AD&D (they didn't lift that one until 3rd. ed. whcih is just plain D&D) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject auggie18 2012-01-19 04:02 pm UTC (link)
	So, AoA Nightcrawler had a run in with the Crimson Dawn? Pretty art. (Reply to this)

	no subject protogarrett 2012-01-19 04:04 pm UTC (link)
	Deathlok got quite the upgrade. Also, didn't they kill baby apocalypse? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject salinea 2012-01-19 04:11 pm UTC (link)
	that's another baby apocalypse that Fantomex cloned and had raised by the Kents in The World and who's now joined the student cast at W&tXM. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimaton terrykun 2012-01-19 09:39 pm UTC (link)
	That's Ultimaton/Weapon XV. Fantomex's little robot pal. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject nyadnar17 2012-01-19 07:11 pm UTC (link)
	The sentence above me is awesome. Anyone else glad to see Deadpool having a drink with his peers and coworkers and not being treated like a pariah? I mean it looks like he might actually be making real friends ! (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject salinea 2012-01-19 07:32 pm UTC (link)
	being capable of utter such sentences is one of the secret joy of being a comic book fan. Yes! :) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject domino_blue 2012-01-19 07:15 pm UTC (link)
	........I miss the old Kurt, this guy doesn't know how to have fun. I know alternate dimension but still I need more happy blue pirate/ninja elf's in my life. (Reply to this)

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don1138
2012-01-19 08:22 pm UTC (link)

What stands out to me is the, "I've seen too much to believe in any love of God" quote.

I half-suspected the reason Marvel backgrounded him for years and then killed him off was Kurt's hyper-religiousity, that the idea of a demonic-looking character being the most overt mouthpiece for Christian values (the actual teachings -- love, forgiveness, self-sacrifice and etc., not the fundamentalist tripe) in their canon was a bit too "perverse" for certain "modern" hyper-sensetive um… sensibilities in the commercial sphere.

So now (at the moment that Marvel has swapped out berzerker-rage Wolverine for kinder, gentler, more family-friendly Wolverine) we have angry, hateful, kick-ass, hyper-masculine replacement Nightcrawler, who explicitly states he is not effeminate or spiritual while drinking beer and complaining the danger room isn't dangerous enough. Cool -- why show (characterization), when you can just tell (dialogue)? (snark snark snark!)

I wonder what Cockrum would think. Heck, I wonder what Claremont thinks.

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	no subject icon_uk 2012-01-19 09:31 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not sure Cockrum ever envisaged Kurt as being who he ended up being in the X-Men. IIRC he's said he wanted a very UNreligious character, who was so sick of being thought a demon that he rejected religion outright. Could be wrong though. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject okkult3000 2012-01-20 03:26 am UTC (link)
	Cockrum stated that he envisioned Nightcrawler as bitter and unreligious; Claremont came up with the swashbuckling Catholic characterization on his own. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject pallas_athena 2012-01-19 11:38 pm UTC (link)
	Kurt didn't used to be hyper-religious; religion was one aspect of his character that an astute writer would bring out very occasionally to great effect. And then Chuck Austen. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject suzene 2012-01-20 06:15 am UTC (link)
	Sadly, Bizarro!Claremont started the ball rolling on that one. Austen either decided to or was ordered to retcon the priest thing. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject pallas_athena 2012-01-20 03:18 pm UTC (link)
	I stand corrected! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject suzene 2012-01-20 04:49 pm UTC (link)
	He still did so in an offensive manner that was just bleeding misogyny and ignorance, of course. Definitely not defending the story. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject icon_uk 2012-01-19 09:30 pm UTC (link)
	Sigh... AoA Nightcrawler was interesting as a short term example of how Kurt could go "wrong", a dark mirror as it were. I have no real interest in seeing him as a continuing character, especially I may have to post some being-awesome Nightcrawler just for the hell of it. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject pallas_athena 2012-01-19 11:31 pm UTC (link)
	oh yes please do. We all need more awesome Nightcrawler in our lives! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject baihu 2012-01-20 11:16 am UTC (link)
	He comes off as a kinder Limbo-Nightcrawler to be honest. That's what I remembered when seeing this, ol' Limbo-Nightcrawler. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject midnightvoyager 2012-01-20 04:43 am UTC (link)
	GodDAMN, he's obnoxious and annoying. Do not want. GTFO. Etc. (Reply to this)

	no subject suzene 2012-01-20 06:17 am UTC (link)
	Yup, this is everything I feared it would be. sits back with a pile of Excalibur Classic TPBs <3 (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject salinea 2012-01-20 10:44 am UTC (link)
	I'm in the middle of reading Excalibur and he is so adorable and sweet there ♥ (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject eyz 2012-01-20 12:53 pm UTC (link)
	I still have a problem with seeing Wade in any sort of team, but daaaayuum, this looks great~ (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject salinea 2012-01-20 04:59 pm UTC (link)
	Remender is the best writer for Wade currently :) It helps that this team makes the Secret Six look functional of course. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject darrylayo 2012-01-22 04:24 pm UTC (link)
	This is a wonderfully written scene, but then the problem is that I've read a lot of Deadpool comics in my day, since before "THE CIRCLE CHASE," and I swear on a stack of bibles that this is NOT Wade Wilson. But in itself, this is a lovely scene. (Reply to this)

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