What a bizarre idea, and this is ME saying that...

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From Bleeding Cool (And may contain spoilers... if an unconfirmed rumour of a possible new title can be considered a spoiler)



From the article linked above.

He's done gangbusters for DC Comics, taking C-list character Animal Man, whose return to the DC Universe from DC Vertigo had been lacklustre at best, and turned him into a surprise critical and commercial hit as part of the DC New 52.

So it's only natural that DC might tap him for any other bright ideas.

I understand, from a well placed source, that the current tittle tattle around the Batbooks is that Jeff Lemire will write a new series entitled The Robins, starring Damien, Jason, Tim and Dick.

Batman And Robin has recently specialised in featuring as many Robins as it can - but The Robins will do all that but with a lot less Batman.

No mention of Stephanie Brown as of yet. Neither Jeff Lemire nor DC Comics returned emails sent yeaterday.

No idea how that would work, in terms of bringing them together, or giving them a reason to work together, but it might be fun, if only for the Dick/Damian interactions, and whatever dynamic Jason has with any of them any more.


For legality

A scan from Nightwing, showing how he gets in and out of the costume



And for a juvenile smirk



An image I found over on Tumblr by an artist called jiro220 (Caution, links to a Yaoi gallery, you click at your own risk if at work) which make best use of the new DC logo...

Comments

[anothermoviegeek]

Will be interesting to see how they deal with a Bruce sanctioned team (if it is that) bringing murderous Jason back into the fold.

As much as I find this interesting, I would MUCH rather see a Batgirls book. Babs, Cass and Steph together? Best book ever.

[perletwo]

I haven't been following RH&tO since the clusterfarg that was the introduction of Starfire in #1 - is DCnU Jason still murderous, in-canon? Did he still die in harness as Robin? Have they spelled out the terms of the Bat/Jason schism yet?

[anothermoviegeek]

Technically he actually hasn't shot anyone since issue 1, but the way the story is going I don't see that side of him going away any time soon.

[katya]

Definitely died while Robin at the hands of the Joker, but they seem to be going with the animated movie version of events as Talia was the one shown with him right after he came back. He was apparently trained as an assassin, but still has a lot of anger both at the Joker for killing him and at Bruce for not avenging him.

The only time he's killed anyone in the new canon so far it was an Ancient Evil-type monster, but he did briefly consider killing 50 or so civilians in the most recent issue (then discarded the idea pretty promptly because they weren't guilty of anything) so I'd guess there's still a thread of that.

IMO every issue of Red Hood gets better than the previous one. It might be my favorite DCnU book right now.

[whitesycamore]

The most recent issue of RHATO seemed to imply that while Jason will still kill without much compunction when he has to, he's substantially less murderous and angry than he used to be.

Also, there was some really sweet platonic interaction between Roy and Kory last issue, in which they both got the opportunity to protect/be protected by the other (although ultimately it was Kory who ended up the rescuer).

She also revealed the truth about her 'memory problem.' I found it quite interesting.

[salinea]

She also revealed the truth about her 'memory problem.' I found it quite interesting.
Oh, do tell? Or make a post about it?

[whitesycamore]

I was thinking of making a post about it soon, but I have lots of other stuff to do first, and I am generally quite lazy. :D

But yeah, it was only an offhand comment she made, but I found it very revealing in terms of who she's supposed to be as a character.

It's funny, but a while back I was discussing (pre DCnu) Kory with someone, and I said that she had never really appealed to me because she was just *too* open and forthcoming and willing to talk about her feelings - while I prefer characters to have a little more reserve and... interior privacy than that.

I definitely feel like she has more of that now.

[icon_uk]

I'm glad you're enjoying that as a take on her, but that actually makes me less interested. Comics are full of reserved, private characters, someone who absolutely wasn't made for a good contrast.

[shadowpsykie]

id on;t think she is necissarily "reserved" i honestly think she is more complex. when it comes to her personal life, and her past, it's something she does not want to talk about. its something that she reflects. but life in general, her reaction is different. her personality in that respects is out going and fun. i find this Starfire enjoyably... comlplex. (i like complex characters) also semi nude jason....

[whitesycamore]

Exactly. I wouldn't say that she is reserved in her general personality, just that she has some boundaries that she feels she must retain in order to function. Lying about her memory was a way to pre-empt any pressure to explain herself and her past to people she doesn't know that well yet.

She is fun loving and confident, but she is still recovering from trauma, in a realistic way.

[shadowpsykie]

exactly! thats what i was thinking. and nothing against hte old starfire, i loved her. but by the time i read about her, she had "gotten over" the enslavement thing (and torture) but this starfire seems like the wounds are still fresh. She still loves life and has a gusto for it. but she is still healing.

[whitesycamore]

I understand what you mean about needing variety and contrast in characters, but I find someone with almost *no* split between public and private selves utterly unintriguing. The interior/exterior dichotomy is the meat of character development to me!

Or maybe it's just that old Kory embodied a particular ideal of warm-and-fluffy femininity that makes me itch all over. :P

[shadowpsykie]

which part? i saw par to f that comic (i just picked up a month and a half-two months worth of comics i havent;t been able to read so i have some catching up to do:)

[aeka]

I understand, from a well placed source, that the current tittle tattle around the Batbooks is that Jeff Lemire will write a new series entitled The Robins, starring Damien, Jason, Tim and Dick.

No offence any to fans of these characters, but...why would *all* of these characters need another book again? Especially considering they *already* have their own books that are already doing well? Oh wait...I think I just answered my own question.

Honestly though, I would invest more in a book that had ALL the Batgirls (current and former) before I invest in a book that features all four male Robins. Unlike the aforementioned characters, Steph and Cass aren't in anything at the moment.

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[darkknightjrk]

The theory I heard that I thought would be cool is if it's about those four characters as Robin, basically meaning you could have modern-day Damian stories, or past stories with Dick, Jason, or Tim.

That's also assuming that this is going to be an on-going--for all we know it could be a mini-series where the four are forced (well, in Jason's case probably forced) to team-up.

And THAT'S also assuming that this thing even exists more than just wishful thinking.

[aeka]

As a mini-series having all four Robins team up for a story sounds like a neat idea, and could actually be fun to see all four interact. But as an on-going series (as the sentence implies) is rather redundant since these characters already have books that they front and would further defeat DC's mission statement of "creating a more diverse line."

I personally feel that instead of giving Batman & Sons more books than they actually need, these books should instead go to other popular characters who are currently missing in action like Steph, Cass, or Renee as the Question. I'm especially hoping Renee isn't benched.

[darkknightjrk]

I think considering what we've seen with the DCnU, a mini-series would probably make the most sense. I mean, first month or two was just the New 52 stuff, and then they started revealing the mini-series', like Huntress and The Shade. I think by April/May all of those minis will be done. Maybe with this "Second Wave" of stuff like Earth Two and Worlds' Finest, that means we'll see a second wave of miniseries'.

[littlepunkryo]

IF this actually happens, I could see DC thinking that maybe doing issues that are basically flashbacks to each of the boys' tenure as Robin would be interesting for people.( Although considering the time crunch, where each of them has only been one for like a year, I wonder if that means we'd get younger Dick or Dick who was an older teenager when his parents died and thus older when he was Robin, like they're trying to run with as canon.)

I mean, the idea of the New 52 was supposed to be to bring new readers in. (Whether it worked or not? I have no idea). So you have four guys who used to be Robin, only one of which actually IS one right now. I can see them thinking "well why don't we do a book where new readers can read a story from when Dick was Robin, Jason was Robin, without their books having to have a flashback issue?" I don't see how it would work any other way, cause I doubt the four of them are at a place where teaming up would make sense.

Of course I have my doubts that this is true, honestly.

[drexer]

Honestly, my first reaction to this was remembering the Batman brave and the Bold #13 that came out a while ago and thinking that perhaps they were basing the idea of doing this upon that. As such I checked the ComicChronicles site and effectively there was an increase in numbers of that tile:

Issue Sales
3 6,557
4 6,561
5 6,463
6 6,324
7 6,869
8 6,645
9 6,404
10 6,351
11 6,410
12 6,771
13 7,143
14 6,724

There is effectively a reasonable(3,33%) increase regarding the average sales of the title in that number; and considering that I do not know the source of those stats and as such the real increase might be higher, perhaps they went after that.

Even if that is true though, I recall that the discussion here around that title was more regarding Stephanie as a character and in fact, I bought it just because of that. So I wonder if this is true, how much of a miss it might be in that regard.

I want my Steph&Cass book goddamnit.

[icon_uk]

I'm still trying to find a copy of that Brave and the Bold that isn't overpriced.

[whitesycamore]

You can't get one either? Huh.

I put that issue on my pull list months in advance, but it never turned up.

[big_daddy_d]

hmmm part of me likes the idea, the other part..I gotta go with aeka, why would these characters need yet another book? And hopefully this doesn't spell the end for Red Hood and the Outlaws. I'm actually really loving that book.

[fifthie]

Does Damien exist in post-post-post-post Crisis DCU or is pre-post-post-post Crisis DCU Batman just being hived off into his own little continuity cul-de-sac?

[icon_uk]

You mean the Damian who is currently the only holder of the title of "Robin", and who is a regular co-star in the comic entitled "Batman and Robin"?

[fifthie]

That is indeed the Damian who I am asking whether comics currently featuring him exist in a pre-continuity cul-de-sac or if he too has been raptured into the new post-continuity continuity but thanks for not answering that question I guess.

[icon_uk]

Sorry, I thought the bits I cited made it clear that these things are happening in the DCnU here and now.

It would seem to be counter to the DCnU ethos to launch an out of continuity ongoing Bat-title in amongst all the others without suggesting it, and the fact we've seen covers like this and the picture from last weeks Batman with Dick in his red Nightwing costume standing beside Damian as they investigate Batman's disappearance would seem conclusive.

I had heard a suggestion that the Batman Inc. Special that just came out should be considered pre-Flashpoint, but I don't recall reading that in the comic itself and I don't know how much, if any, of Steph's time as Batgirl exists in the DCnU.

[darkknightjrk]

Yeah, the first page of Leviathan Strikes does say that it takes place before Flashpoint and the New 52.

[icon_uk]

Ah thanks for that.

[anothermoviegeek]

It was kind of tiny mention in the book. Click for larger:



In the second half, Tim is in his first (updated) Red Robin outfit and Dick is Bats still.

[anothermoviegeek]

Link got eaten. Here is the image: http://pics.livejournal.com/akbar56/pic/001rhq2g.jpg

[icon_uk]

Cheers!

[pyrotwilight]

I approve of this new DC logo now.

[shadowpsykie]

oh hai dick.... oh hai bruce :DDDDD WHY WONT THOSE DAMN LOGOS MOVE FURTHER.... I KEEP TRYING TO PEEL THEM.... BUT MY FINGERS ARE BLEEDING ALLOVER THE MONITOR!

[jaybee3]

So the Bat-boys including Jason who has tried to kill Bruce, Dick AND Tim and will be involved in Snyder's Court of Owls as well get yet another book while Cassandra and Stephanie (who between the two of them carried successful solo titles for DC for 8+ years) are still nowhere to be seen and still never even mentioned. Something's rotten in the state of Denmark, methinks. Nothing will get me not to believe there's some serious Editorial issues going on in the background - I believed it when they didn't give Steph a memorial and refused to acknowledge her as a Robin (something Didio continued when he announced "all the Robins" would get their own books in the new 52) and when they made Cassandra a villain despite her successful title and when that didn't work out they had the man who made her a villain write her mini-series (did they really think that would work?) which they said determined if there was fan support for the character - all the while they we know they were planning to bring Babs back as Batgirl in Oracle: The Cure. I'm not even going to into Didio's now infamous statement that there were "big plans" for Cassandra Cain in 2011 (a year in which Cass hardly appeared and was hardly ever even mentioned by name even in the Batgirl title).

[curlyjo1]

Hee. Dick looks like, "...I feel a draft..." Bruce just looks like he's doing a usual, "hrm."

[littlepunkryo]

Dick's face is ADORABLE, it's like he's surprised that his butt is suddenly cold.

....I feel like I'm missing the point.

[icon_uk]

Honey, wherever Dick's butt is involved, that IS the point.

[rdfox]

Book starring "all the Robins." No Steph, no sale.

[thefiretonight]

Ah, yeah. HIGHLY doubt this is happening. And really, these 'inside DC sources' apparently leaking info? So unprofessional, if it's true and not just bullshit rumors.

[runespoor]

Wow, this deserves all the irate gifs ever.

[kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com]

As I said on lj, still no credit for the artist.


And I would like the idea if I thought it would ever happen or be done well. :P

[icon_uk]

Posted late, went to bed, been at work all day, haven't had the opportunity before now. Now added

[kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com]

Cool, thanks. :)

[bradygirl_12]

LOVE the expression on Dick's face as the logo is peeled away. Of course, that's the SECOND thing I noticed about that drawing. ;)

Bruce is very...Bruce. ;)

I like the idea of an all-Robin book, though I do think DC has made a hot mess of all this continuity with each Robin in the job just a year? No, no and no, please. Dick was Robin for YEARS and will continue to be so in my personal canon. Even Jason and Tim held the title for longer than a year.

I'm not even a huge Cass or Stephanie fan and I find DC's treatment of these two shabby at best.

[kirke_novak]

I very, very, VERY strongly approve of the new logo. Very strongly.

[icon_uk]

All it takes is the right incentive! :)

[junipepper]

All it takes is the right... perspective. ;