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40 years ago at Highgate Cemetery:





"...for the mind can only endure so much pain at one time."





Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-29 11:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Hmmm.

Point 1: I've sometimes wondered just how "crazy" Drusilla really is, at least compared to other vampires. Some of it could be her going mad with grief before Angelus turned her, some of it could be her perception on things are skewed due to her psychic powers, and some of it could be she just enjoys babbling like a Victorian-era loon. I even wondered if the whole "Bring Darla back to life to torment Angel" was her idea, and she just needed Wolfram & Hart's resources to execute the plan.

Point 2: Suicidal Angel. They've tossed around the idea that Angel is so wracked with guilt over Angelus' action he's occasionally wanted to end it all. The episode "Five By Five" featured flashbacks to Angel just getting his soul back and going nuts with guilt. He attempts suicide but backs down for... some reason. Also, I guess a Douglas Adams novel convincing Angel to live is as good a reason as a sudden snowfall in Sunnydale on Christmas morning. ("Amends")

Point 3: Daddy LeHane. I have wondered what Faith's childhood was like. She seems happy in the photo with her father. It is possible that getting the power of the Slayer was what drove her to the brink before accidentally killing a human drove her over the edge. Now, "Slayers be crazy" is something brought up. Which is why the final episode of Buffy bugged me so much: Hundreds of girls all have the power of the Slayer and no way of controlling it. Unless it was Joss doing a "women get the right to vote" analogy I was missing.

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-29 11:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
I kind of get the idea that Faith's parents might've had a messy breakup and her mother got custody, but shouldn't have. She mentioned in the show that her mother was drunk, abusive, and dead before she met Buffy.

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-31 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scottl
I got the sense that Faith had been abused by her father when she was young. When she and Buffy mind-switched, she *completely* freaked after sleeping with Riley, demanding to know what he 'wanted' from her.

I think the juxtaposition of Faith's dad searching for her with a demon that feeds on trauma is deliberate on the writer's part. Hope it's handled well.

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-30 06:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] auggie18
One of the Buffy spin-offs that never ended up happening was called Slayer School. It was about pretty much what is sounds like it'd be about.


I try not to think about the finale too much. Stuff starts occurring to you like "why didn't Willow just perfect the handheld sunshine spell she was working on in season five instead doing something so dangerous and workld-breaking?"

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-30 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
because up to that point the Turok Han had broken vampire rules before so who knows if sunlight would have worked, and because that would have destroyed the First's major weapons but it wouldn't have protected the potentials are two reasons.

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-30 10:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] auggie18
They seemed pretty clear about the whole Turok Han not handling sunlight thing. And any way, didn't they just need to off the uber-vamps until Spike used the deau ex amulet to set things right?


A lot of the seventh season finale bothered me, actually.

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-30 09:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I've sometimes wondered just how "crazy" Drusilla really is, at least compared to other vampires.

Angel/Angelus, Darla and Spike all considered her insane. I'd say that was pretty good evidence of being in a position where "sane" is a place she left looooooooong ago.

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-30 01:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] runespoor
3: or he's lying and the photo is Photoshopped to get others to tell him where Faith is. Or it's a one-in-a-lifetime moment. Or both.

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-30 04:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Now, "Slayers be crazy" is something brought up. Which is why the final episode of Buffy bugged me so much: Hundreds of girls all have the power of the Slayer and no way of controlling it. Unless it was Joss doing a "women get the right to vote" analogy I was missing.

not a women get the vote thing. its more Women become empowered. Now, just because someone is empowered, or given power does not mean they know what to do with it. Or will do the right thing. Its up to the individual person to choose what to do with that power. and that was explored Last season. For the most part, the Slayers were Run buy women Buffy personally trained. So one would assume they followed her Ideologies. There were slinter groups that either Buffy never brought under her wing or wanted to do what they felt like. Anyway, its not "Slayers be cray-cray" it's "Power effects people in different ways"

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-30 08:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] janegray
I completely disagree.

First of all, those Slayers weren't women, they were young girls (Buffy herself was fifteen when she became a slayer).

Second, I don't think power that is forced on a person, without their knowledge or consent, is "empowering" but rather constraining. How can it be empowering if the individual in question has no say whatsoever in the matter? Sure, Buffy eventually found all those Slayers (many of whom were forced to spend many months confused and scared, with no idea of WTF had happened to their bodies) and gave them a choice, but again a)they were kids, most of them weren't even old enough to drive and Buffy wanted to recruit them for a freaking army??? and b)it wasn't her right to give them a power they didn't know of nor ask for in the first place.

Third, it's a well-known fact that Slayers have an extremely short lifespan, to the point that when it looked like Dawn could be a Slayer the Scoobies' reaction was basically "oh shit, now she is doomed to die before she turns thirty!" (indeed, Slayers in the post-series comics are glorified cannon fodder and die in droves).

To me, that final episode of Buffy was life giving countless oblivious children a loaded gun and painting a target on their back. The fact that it was presented as "feminist" and "inspirational" upset me.

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-31 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
the reaction to Dawn as potential Slayer was before they did the mass empowering spell. And the mass empowering spell allows the possiblity of them saying, no thanks not for me, without threatening billions of lives.

Re: Long rant ahead.

Date: 2012-01-31 04:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] introverted_excavator
Wasn't it canon that Drusilla's was never 100% stable even before she was turned because of her precognitive powers and that Angelus' torturing her before turning her just exacerbated that? Or am I getting fanon mixed up with canon again?

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what a sane Dru can do. This is new territory for Angel (Who only has experience dealing with an unstable Dru) and Faith (Who's never actually been around Dru period), they have absolutely no way of predicting what she might be planning.

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