scans_daily: More Public Opinions from Comicbook Universes

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@ 2012-02-03 05:38 pm UTC

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More Public Opinions from Comicbook Universes

Inspired by this post I've decided to post some more comments from the general public in various comicboook universes to see how much of a difference there is between them.

I mean, we all know the standard Marvel reaction to any superhero or supersituation that they come across...

...and whether they are throwing hotdogs or some similar wet object of the same shape depends on who is writing. But how do other universes fare?

Just to note: these aren't the defining comments of each universe or series, just ones that I thought were interesting or funny.

First up, the Hellboy-BPRD Universe, specifically the Hell on Earth storyline, where after several Lovecraftian beasties have made large attacks on highly populated areas both in the US and abroad, the UN decides to fund the organisation as they're the aforemost authority when it comes to gigantic wiggly things that turn people into smaller wiggley things.

Heh heh heh, it's funny because the BPRD fought the Nazis (and collaborated with the Soviets when necessary)!

Over to Birds of Prey, when a man who was saved by a redheaded girl in a batgirl costume gives an account of the rescue to the police,

Hm, so both Babara and Misfit have epic boobs then apparently? Also, ew for that apparently being the only way the cop can think of to describe her and the other guy apparently thinking that it was accurate. Oh, and Misfit? Your time if coming in my next Cringeworthy Comics Moments entry!

A moment from Batgirl, where Steph (who, unlike Charlie can be happy and quippy without being thoroughly irritating) encounters a reaction she's never gotten from superheroing before, and also Nell, the now retconned Batgirl of the Future!

They did turn against her briefly in a future issue, but that pretty much seemed to be temporary thing, and I think that the GCPD even apologised to her over the misunderstanding.

And the final moment from the old DCU for now, from Bruce Wayne: Murderer, which shows that people in Gotham actually kind of liked Bruce Wayne, before the whole Occupy Gotham thing that happened recently anyways.

Oh, and the term Deezee is short for deserter, and was used to describe people who fled Gotham before No Man's Land and came back once the city was opened up again and jobs became avaliable. The first guy is being kind of unfair, because 1. Bruce lives outside of Gotham City most of the time, and 2. he campaigned in Congress to stop NML from happening, campaigned to end it and spent billions to rebuild the city after Lex Luthor effectively ended NML through sheer force of money. Either way he's coming off as a massive dick.

And finally, the Wildstorm perspective of superheroes, from Captain Atom: Armageddon, where Captain Atom gets teleported to the Wildstorm Universe after getting blown up in Superman/Batman: Public Enemies, and then proceeds to blow up the Wildstorm Universe in order to reboot it.

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mrstatham
2012-02-03 08:44 pm UTC (link)

Ah.. More reasons to hate Misfit. It feels like I'm usually the sole voice of dissent when it comes to disliking Simone, but I still feel like Misfit was one of the most dunderheaded character choices of all time, frankly; They're a covert operative team of kickass women who frequently run afoul of villains like Deathstroke, Talia, and the Secret Society. One of their associates was tortured pretty brutally at the hands of the latter. And they thought it was a good idea to let a fifteen year old or whatever onto the team?

I also loathed how Simone bigged her up here by describing Cass as the 'mopey' one. How would anyone even KNOW Cass' personality? She kicks the shit out of stuff and leaves. That's it.

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	no subject espanolbot 2012-02-03 08:45 pm UTC (link)
	Gail Simone I have no problem with, it's just Misfit I positively LOATHE. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 16 comments) (Show 16 comments)

	no subject mrstatham 2012-02-03 08:47 pm UTC (link)
	I think Misfit's just an awful character. And whilst I'm not going to rag on Gail unreasonably, putting Misfit on the team in the first place is just an awful, awful decision, given what the Birds are meant to be. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 15 comments) (Show 15 comments)

	no subject stubbleupdate 2012-02-03 11:50 pm UTC (link)
	What's wrong with Misfit? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 10 comments) (Show 10 comments)

	no subject espanolbot 2012-02-03 11:54 pm UTC (link)
	What's right with Misfit? How can I put it tactfully... I fully believe that she burnt her mother and sibling to death through her own incompetance, but claims that it was a random housefire just to get sympathy. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 9 comments) (Show 9 comments)

	no subject big_daddy_d 2012-02-04 12:18 am UTC (link)
	Wait. What? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

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espanolbot
2012-02-04 12:28 am UTC (link)

She has a habit of accidentally hurting or killing people through either basic common sense or lack of people skills.

Such as her causing an entire city block in Metropolis to get exploded, causing Superman to evict the team from the city.

Or her starting a fight with Black Alice, a power meta who was on medication to control her violent moodswings and was making a determined effort to NOT be a supervillain, because she saw Barbara as HER mentor and any other teen superhumans hogging her time are obviously trying to steal Babs away from her. Charlie's shouting and physically pushing Alice around caused her to go on a relapse that kept going for the rest of the DCU, up through Secret Six and up to the reboot.

Or her deciding to kick Barbara in the face, out of her chair, on the basis that "superheroes fight, and then become friends!".

I get that she doesn't MEAN to leave a wake of destruction behind her, but she seemed to also lack the basic selfawareness required to stop too.

She said she couldn't save her family from a burning apartment building. Fine, they established she couldn't teleport living things without exploding, that I can except...

But all she does is stare up at her family burning to death from the street below. Look, if you can't save them, call the fire department, and grab a fire blanket, bucket of water, or a fire extinguisher or something, and fight for time until someone comes along who can actually DO thing bloody useful!

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	no subject stubbleupdate 2012-02-04 12:27 am UTC (link)
	Based on the evidence of... (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject perletwo 2012-02-03 11:50 pm UTC (link)
	All Misfit moments are Cringeworthy Moments, if you ask me. Not a big fan of Black Alice either, so putting the two of them head-to-head in a storyline was like someone with eleven fingers scratching a chalkboard. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject protogarrett 2012-02-03 09:36 pm UTC (link)
	I have issues with the whole teen thing sometimes as well. Or even younger. Take the early issues of Power Pack where they fought the Reavers. Cyborgs with guns vs. superpowered children, the youngest being 4! WTF? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject espanolbot 2012-02-04 12:07 am UTC (link)
	In Young Justice Robin has apparently been a superhero since he was nine... which I guess makes sense since he's the most experienced out of the group (even M'Gann, who is 16 in Martian years but 60-something in Earth ones). Still kind of make the Light's "child soldiers" comment from the series opener oddly apt. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject icon_uk 2012-02-04 12:36 pm UTC (link)
	Katie was 5 when she got her powers, a very intelligent 5, but your point is well taken. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject q99 2012-02-04 01:26 pm UTC (link)
	Super Stupor on the subject (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject icon_uk 2012-02-04 12:37 pm UTC (link)
	But the chap doing the talking will never have seen Cass with her mask off. All they know is that she's the one who never talks, or expresses any visible emotion. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 12 comments) (Show 12 comments)

	no subject runespoor 2012-02-04 12:48 pm UTC (link)
	But we can see Cass' smile through her mask. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 11 comments) (Show 11 comments)

	no subject icon_uk 2012-02-04 01:03 pm UTC (link)
	We only know that because we know she smiles WITHOUT the ask and are aware of the reason she doesn't speak. To a member of the public the wrinkled leather mask is more or less completely unreadable and her lack of talking is just unsettling. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 10 comments) (Show 10 comments)

	no subject runespoor 2012-02-04 01:16 pm UTC (link)
	She does speak. Very little, sure. But she does speak. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject mrstatham 2012-02-04 01:17 pm UTC (link)
	That still doesn't correlate to 'mopey'. Quiet and menacing, yes, but mopey? You might as well say Bruce is 'mopey'. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 5 comments) (Show 5 comments)