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[personal profile] benuben 2012-02-10 19:24 (UTC)(link)
You mean like Batman? And in Golden Age, all Superheroes were basicly the smae characters, just with diffrent powers.

I have not yet read Ruckas run on the book.

Yep. Thats why she refused to kill much worse people than Maxwell Lord in the past. Even though she was almost exactly the same situation with Circe, expect it was far worse. And stop saying killing Maxwell Lord was necessary. It wasnt. Even Greg Rucka said that.
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[personal profile] shadowpsykie 2012-02-10 19:31 (UTC)(link)
And stop saying killing Maxwell Lord was necessary. It wasnt. Even Greg Rucka said that.

i don't want to argue about this... this is a matter of opinion ours differ, lets leave it at that...i do ask you this... please do not tell me what to think...

“You mean like Batman? And in Golden Age, all Superheroes were basicly the smae characters, just with diffrent powers.”

YOU brought up 70 years of history, that INCLUDES the golden age. and it is NOT the only time she has killed before Rucka's run.

here is a list of, or rather a discussion of several instances where Diana has killed, or permited a villian to die.

http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16331
CBR did a more comprehensive list.
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2008/11/11/lorendiacs-timeline-of-wonder-womans-killings-post-crisis/

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[personal profile] benuben 2012-02-10 19:57 (UTC)(link)
I agree. this is matter of opinion. Sorry. But tell me, Why it was necesarry? Why couldnt Diana knock him out, and ask Zatanna to mind wipe him? Or use her lasso to show him how stupid his plan was and that the earth would be doomed without superheroes.
How is Maxwell Lord, no matter how out of character and nonsensical him being evil was, in anyway worse than Circe or Neron?

BTW, I wanted to say Phil Jimenez. Dont know why I said Rucka.

You are right, I was stupid for saying killing. I meant murdering. I promise I will try to think more about what I am writing, before I post coment.

When I was talking about 70 years, I was refereing to your examples.
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[personal profile] shadowpsykie 2012-02-10 20:14 (UTC)(link)
then this is a different conversation now.

as far as Max lord we are going to come to a difference of oppinions. I don't see it as Murder. it seems like you do. he had told her in no uncertain terms that no matter what she did, he wormed his way into superman's psyche little by little over the years. he has complete control of him and told her that all he needed was a moment. she could knock him out, but the second he woke up, it would start all over again and this time he would go for Lois, or Etta, or any of bruce's family. Mind wiping him might work, but all those mind wipes wore off and the moment it did. he would do it again. je was a ticking bomb. so she defused him.

also how is mind winpe different than killing him. to remove THAT, would essentially be killing him.

so she made an in the moment decision, and stood by it.