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Two of Sci-Fi's top franchises finally meet for reals in a cross over.

This nerdgasm inducing incident comes courtesy of BleedingCool.com.

I'm withholding tags on this one in order for the shock and surprise to hit.




Make it so.


Doctor Who meets Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Against whom I can scarcely imagine.

Q should get a few laughs, and LaForge is going to love the Sonic Screwdriver.

Date: 2012-02-10 02:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Amy: Why does he have a Yorkshire accent if he's from France?
the Doctor: Ah, just blame the TARDIS' translation circuits, it's like the time Van Gogh was Scottish.

A Cyberman/Borg team-up/fight would be kind of interesting. On the one hand, the Cybermen probably are what the Borg eventually would like to become... on the other the Cybermen, although almost completely cybernetic at this point, still have enough individuality to conflict with the whole "Hive Mind" deally.

A Dalek invasion of the ST-verse would be a whole lot most fun than it should be though, what with the Doctor (and possibly in this continuity Q) would be the only people that would be able to stop them.

The Klingons' realisation that the Daleks don't make fun opponents in warfare would be amusing/horrible, such as the Daleks taking time out from the battle to hunt down civilians to murder "just because". As would the Borg either getting exterminated or having to run away.

Date: 2012-02-10 03:18 pm (UTC)
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New Who Cybermen seem to be a hive mind, with them all thinking the same thing, and when a CyberLeader was destroyed, simply nominating a random Cyberman to be the new CyberLeader.

The Lumic/CyberController seemed to be the only one with some individuality (but he was a nutter)

Date: 2012-02-10 03:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
True they seemed to be united in purpose, though it seemed to me more similar programming than what the Borg have. For example, individual Cybermen seem capable of holding conversations, unlike most individual Borgs besides the Queen...

Maybe what I'm looking for is individual personalities than individualism, per se, as even the Lumic Cybermen are capable of snark when they feel the situation requires it. For instance, the gloriousness that was the Dalek/Cybermen arguement from Season Two,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysvNOmDMVvk

Date: 2012-02-10 04:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The snarkfest is terrific, though the Cybermen are a bit of a humourless bunch compared the amazing hateful snot-in-a-box that is the Dalek race. The Cybermen are proposing a logicla alliance, the Daleks are basically mocking them.

Certainly the Cybermen were rather proud of the fact that "We are all the same" in terms of thoughts and opinions. They sacrifced creativity for uniformity.

Date: 2012-02-10 05:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Their's seemed tobe a uniformity that they saw as good as it did away with differences in gender, race, etc. etc. so it made everyone equal though. The Borg's uniformity isn't so great (the gender of Borg are still highly obvious despite the fact they don't reproduce sexually, thus things like boobs aren't really necessary to their design from an in-universe perspective, for example) and they seemed to be uniform only in the fact that they are all Borg. They're all Borg, and their uniformity is because that's what they are.

Date: 2012-02-10 05:44 pm (UTC)
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That's kind of why I preferred the old School cybermen myself; They were still cold and logical, but they had personalities, and they were all basically evil scientists who would allow planets to be destroyed or commit willful acts of genocide for no greater reason than "We want to study what will happen when this world dies. For science."

In that vein, I think the old school Cybermen would make a better foil for the Federation, whereas the new Cybermen are more borg like, with the Cybermen they are kind of like an anti federation; Whereas the Federation is interested in peaceful exploration, scientific research, and helping other cultures, the Cybermen are about violent conquest, scientific research at the expense of human life, and treating other species as guinea pigs at worst and parts for new Cybermen at best.

Date: 2012-02-10 07:36 pm (UTC)
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I'd have preferred if the new Cybermen had been almost evangelical in their fervour for upgrading humans, and they would do it because they genuinely believe Cyber-life is the absolute epitome of existence and can't fathom anyone who wouldn't want to be a Cyberman.

Date: 2012-02-10 05:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
I've always held that the Cybermen where what the Borg wish they could be.

Still, the idea of them teaming up is kind of neat; On the one hand the Borg can convert others to Borg much easier, and have their adaptation technology.

The Cybermen are better organized, smarter, and physically more powerful.

Imagine if the Cybermen somehow copied the better aspects of Borg tech.

Date: 2012-02-12 06:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bariman
Amy: Why does he have a Yorkshire accent if he's from France?

*raises hand* I have a theory about this!

In season DS9 episode, O'Brien and Bashir would do holodeck sims. Dax expressed worry that they were playing hopeless battles like the Alamo and the Battle of Britain. But the Battle of Britain wasn't hopeless; that is, the WWII version wasn't, but the WWIII Battle of Britain was. Dax just got them mixed up.

In the WWIII BoB, the British military fought a desperate delaying action against the bad guys to allow the civilians to evacuate to mainland Europe. In France, the British civilians intermarried with the locals, passing down their accents while speaking English, but culturally being French. So now Picard is very very French, like his ancestors, he speaks English with a Yorkshire accent, like his other ancestors.

I'm such a nerd for that.

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