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[personal profile] quatoria 2012-02-16 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this parade of misery and suffering is absolutely what I want when I pick up a copy of the Blue Beetle. They fully and totally figured out the desires of their target market, here. I sure hope things get worse next month!

[personal profile] hybrid2 2012-02-16 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Need more rape.

(I fell sick just joking about it...)
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[personal profile] littlepunkryo 2012-02-16 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
So these people just don't understand at all what made the first BB so great and charming, do they? This was the last issue for me - Jaime slapping Brenda was the last straw. I tried.
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[personal profile] auggie18 2012-02-16 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Thunderous amounts of motto. Who'd want to go and read something FUN anyway?

[personal profile] gtrout 2012-02-16 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
"Charming" was never in their directive, I think.


[personal profile] darkknightjrk 2012-02-16 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what the funny thing is? Initially, I wasn't really interested in the new series, because from what I was seeing it looked like a retread of the old series.

Looking at it now, I think it is possible to make this a good story--the idea of this teenager trying to stop this killing machine living inside him--but what I'm seeing in the scans just isn't being presented as that interesting.
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[personal profile] majingojira 2012-02-16 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
God I hate it when I'm right. Damned understanding of the narrative flow off things.

They've now completely jettisoned everything from the original series. Style, tone, pacing, linearity (who else didn't appreciate yet another DC book trying to advertise another DC book?) and now supporting cast and location.

I saw it coming. I really did . . .
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[personal profile] majingojira 2012-02-16 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked that story better when it was called "Guyver".
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2012-02-16 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Jaime's Blue Beetle has always been a Guyver story.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2012-02-16 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed, if you weren't aiming for the fun side of it, this would be a perfectly decent "Powers he neither wants nor can contorl properly" scenario, but that's been done before, and it was the overall ensemble which sold the concept last time.
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[personal profile] majingojira 2012-02-16 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know, but now the tone and style largely match (or are even more screwed up).

Also, I wanted an excuse to use my Guyver icon :)
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[personal profile] practicalcat 2012-02-16 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, when I saw that Jaime was getting a book in the reboot, I felt kind of bad. I wanted to support Jaime getting a book because I loved the old series with it's snarky sense of humor and awesome support cast.

Now? I feel not a whit of guilt about not spending money on this derivative junk. Blah blah blah, best friend goes evil, blee blah bloo, no one knows his seeeeeeecret, natter natter natter. BLEH.
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[personal profile] q99 2012-02-16 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It may possibly be a good story, but it's not really a Blue Beetle story.

[personal profile] darkknightjrk 2012-02-16 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't even say that--there was definitely a component of the original comic, it just wasn't as explicitly the main plot point as it is now.
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[personal profile] espanolbot 2012-02-16 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Too late, you've jinxed the rest of the series!
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[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-02-16 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't know about you folks, but I'm sure glad they stripped out every single thing that made the Jaime Blue Beetle series appealing and lovable. All the fun, humor, poignancy, adventure, and general awesomeness had to go, because this is far more ~*unique*~ and ~*edgy*~. It's not like we ever have other pointlessly samey dark-n-edgy comics clogging up our shelves at the local comic store.

Ugh, I'm glad I never bothered with this reboot version.
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[personal profile] espanolbot 2012-02-16 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
As I said to Linkara, who said on Twitter that he abandoned the series with the previous issue, that watching this reboot disintegrate is actually kind of fascinating.

I mean, they took a a chance with the previous incarnation and allowed it to complete its run despite its low sales, and it came out one of their more critically acclaimed books with generally a lot of good feeling aimed towards it. And after that they took a chance and managed to get Jaime into their new Batman show, so a similar good fan reaction.

They're even having a live-action Blue Beetle show, which has been advertised as part of the DC Nation programming block along with the likes of Young Justice, Super Best Friends Forever (Lauren Faust's Donna Troy, Barbara Gordon, Kara Zor El show) etc.

And someone in DC thought that, with the new fans coming in from Batman: the Brave and the Bold and potentially from the new TV show, that THIS was the way that they should be introduced to the character in the comics!

This isn't the same as someone who watched Teen Titans as a kid getting squicked out by the differences between Starfire in the show and Starfire in Red Hood and the Outlaws, they had like a ten year buffer between the show and the comic. The change in tone between the new Blue Beetle comic and the old versions happened so suddenly I'm suprised we didn't get whiplash!
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[personal profile] quatoria 2012-02-16 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! When I read the old Blue Beetle, I kept thinking - this is great, but it'd be so much better if every single piece of the comic was torn out and replaced with something darker and miserable and much less fun in every way. Whooo!
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[personal profile] liara_shadowsong 2012-02-16 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I want to support Jaime having his own series. Really. I like Jaime. But this... is not what I want to read. If they put the fun back, I'll probably buy it from that point onward (entirely skipping over the earlier issues). But for now, I just can't bring myself to ask for it as my LCS. I don't think I like this reboot very much, in general (I'm only getting two titles right now, and starting to seriously consider dropping them). But I am glad to see Paco is no longer mind-controlled!
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[personal profile] fleur_de_liz 2012-02-16 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)

This version of Blue Beetle is like a McNugget: they took the comic book equivalent of beaks and feet, boiled them down, pressed them into a Blue Beetle shaped treat, and tried coloring it up to make it look pretty.
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[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-02-16 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, we totally just really needed it to be exactly the same pointlessly dreary and miserable atmosphere as a thousand other poorly-written messes on the shelves.

Whew, am I glad we got rid of something original, upbeat, cheerful, and fun! We don't need that in our SERIOUS MATURE ART FORM!

Bleh. I miss the real Jaime and Co. so bad.

[personal profile] jlbarnett 2012-02-16 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still buying this because I'm hoping Bedard will get fired and a new author on it rather than it getting cancelled, but I'm to the point I barely read any of it. I just flip through the pictures.

You know CSN actually said this book was cancelled with issue 8 according to last weeks. I checked with my comic shop though, it hadn't been added to the cancelled six.

but overall this is just terrible. Maybe when he gets back from New York though Paco will have been inspired to go back to school, Brenda will have learned self defense, the Reyes family will be ready to support Jaime. And then his first arc back can be getting rid of the homicidal power mad spirit possessing La Dama reverting her back into a power broker type.
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[personal profile] pyrotwilight 2012-02-17 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
*shrug* It IS a departure but I can see why DC's trying to do it. They want to grab a big readership for the book as soon as possible and his prior cancellation showed while awesome and critically acclaimed it just didn't sell enough. Not that it really excuses it but I get it. I'm hoping it does well and actually gets some of its old tone once it gets on good legs.

[personal profile] jlbarnett 2012-02-17 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
if it gets good legs why would it switch to it's old tone?
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[personal profile] pyrotwilight 2012-02-17 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it's not quite a pace I think the series can pull off long term with his character (the current pace) since it feels so far like an extra large setup arc.
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[personal profile] tsunamiwombat 2012-02-17 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
Guyver at least has the Catharsis of said teenager getting really pissed off and ripping the limbs off monsters.
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[personal profile] eyz 2012-02-17 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
Guys..why didn't you simply bring back Black Beetle instead of turning Paco into.....THIS!!

I'm still wishing a dimensional warp-thingie will open up in the sky, Black Beetle fighting the real Booster Gold will come out of that. The whole reboot/Flashpoint/New 52 was in fact his doing, not Zoom or Flash's. He snaps Paco's red & grey beetle off and things will go back to normal after that.
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[personal profile] shadowpsykie 2012-02-17 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
i don;t liike this... i don't HATE it... but i don't like this.... *well i hate the slap... im sure he could have done something else to "threaten her" and shock Paco back without actually physically striking her....

however, i can't abandon this series... i loved it before and i am holding on for dear life that SOME of the old magic will come back... hoping for some of Jaime to rub off on Kaji-Dah or something.... i just... i can't let go...
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[personal profile] shadowpsykie 2012-02-17 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)

again i have no problem with the scarrab havinig more initial control and Jaime having a harder time controlling it... some of what was done... bothers me... but regardless... i am holding on to hope that after this set up (and yeah i agree this is an extra long setup arch) we will see a slower more character driven story take place... cuz really... we ahve yet to see Blue Beetle the "Hero"

[personal profile] gerardotejada 2012-02-18 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
They destroyed a series with a great future, well at least Batwoman was saved.

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[personal profile] majingojira 2012-02-18 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, of the minor characters I checked up on, we have yet to see a quite a few the New 52 be Heroes yet.

Superboy, to me, stands out secondmost to Blue Beetle.
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[personal profile] majingojira 2012-02-18 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a hope in vain.

The mood and tone for the series has already been established, and short of a new writer, that's not likely to change.

A film Student's tip: If you don't like a movie after the first 10 to 20 minutes, you're free to leave at your leisure. You're unlikely to like what's to come.