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Three and four pages from THE TRANSFORMERS: MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE 1 and 2, respectively...









The blast is the work of the legless Tailgate, finally freeing himself from underground after six million years. He kept passing out, so it took him a long time.













Date: 2012-02-17 07:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lascoden
Do Transformers have any sort of aging process, or are they all functionally immortal?

Date: 2012-02-17 07:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beoweasel
Given that Shockwave ruled Cybertron for millions of years in Megatron's absence, I think they're pretty immortal.

Date: 2012-02-17 11:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
That just means they're long-lived.

Date: 2012-02-19 08:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
By the time you're talking a lifespan in millions of years, most species would find it hard to tell the difference, relatively speaking.

Date: 2012-02-19 08:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Fair point, certainly.

But since 'ageing' is actually getting to be a pretty major point in the IDW version of the universe, it is a difference with a meaning, even if we mayfly types have a hard time grocking it.

Date: 2012-02-17 09:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
They're functionally immortal, but they do get killed, run out of fuel, wear builds up, tech moves on, etc..

Kup, for example, is so old that for a long time it was hard to repair him if he got serious damage.

Presence of good repair facilities and energon supplies are key to a good life, I'd say.

Date: 2012-02-17 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] spacebetween
Depends on the series. In the G1 cartoon it was hinted that a young A-3 was Alpha Trion and he lived for well over 6 million years since he was one of the first Transformers made by Vector Sigma.

Still in all continuities they can live for a huge period of time barring death from combat or accidents provided they get the repairs.

Date: 2012-02-17 07:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Six million years isn't that big a deal given how long the Autobots and Decepticons were in stasis under Mount St Hillary whilst other bots like Shockwave was active on Cybertron the whole time, and the Combaticons were able to be recreated into new bodies.

IIRC The only truly immortal Transformer was Starcream following his apparent death by Galvatron, but he came back as an intangible, host possessing "ghost".

Date: 2012-02-17 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] spacebetween
Alpha Trion still out ages Shockwave considerably, as he was there before there were Autobots and Decepticons factions. I just can't remember how long that period was. In Prime and some comics he is one of the 13.

Ahh Starscream during his ghost time was fun, which the Maximals trying to recreate that by creating Protoform X/Rampage.

But you are right if their mind is still functioning they can get new body, they can be brought back from the Matrix or if their mind is on a 4 inch floppy.........

Date: 2012-02-17 11:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
There seems to be something of a natural ageing process.

Kup was already mentioned.

In the flash-forward in the last issue of the last series, Ironhide (15 million years into the future) has aged to the point that he can't transform, and he's got trouble walking.

In an earlier scene from MTMtE 1, Ratchet complains that he's ageing, and it's effecting his skills.

On the other hand...there's Alpha Trion, who's pretty much the oldest Transformer in existence, and he's STILL terribly spry in that flash-forward. (He apparently upgrades regularly enough that nothing gets to the point of irreparable wear, like Ironhide's transformation cog did.)

The time frame in which it happens seems...very variable, however. Ironhide's probably around 20 million years old in the flash-forward, and, while he's deteriorated, and seems to be the only Great War era bot still alive (or perhaps just the only one on that particular planet), he's still alive, and others of his generation apparently lived long enough that stories of the Great War are still perfectly well known to the younger generation.

On the other hand in The Death of Optimus Prime, More That Meets the Eye, and Robots in Disguise, they talk about periods of around 10 million years as though it's absolutely ridiculous to believe that they know anything about it, because it's so unimaginably long before the lives of even ancient bots like Kup.

Date: 2012-02-18 09:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Alpha Trion seems very good at maintenance/tech in general.

In the cartoon, he kept Elita-One's squad running for 4 mil years, and in IDW, he constructed an entirely new body for Ironhide (a big task for him, mind, but an impressive one).

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