A clip from Brave: Is This What TV Tropes Calls An Establishing Character Moment?

[espanolbot]

With Fanart, as the Imageshack Situation as pretty much rendered me incapable of posting new things from my computer for the time being.

Merida is my new favourite Disney/Pixar character!

Though her bursting her dress to show off her muscles is going to get SOOOO much of the wrong kind of fanart.

Speaking of Fanart!

Bat Girls by ~dfridolfs on deviantART


Cat on hot tin roof by *monkeymarc on deviantART


kp - kissy face by ~Tenshichan1013 on deviantART


Flame Princess VS Ice Queen by `Yamino on deviantART


Wondy All Dressed Up by *OniYon on deviantART


Steph Girl by *neko-bri-bri on deviantART


Toph -The Greatest EarthBender by *DarkKenjie on deviantART


Batgirl: Year One by *NotThePornStar on deviantART


After Watchmen by ~n8twing on deviantART


The Legend of Azula by *kelly1412 on deviantART


Red Robin and Batgirl by *shoot-o on deviantART


naughty by nature by *duss005 on deviantART


Burning Love II by `Yamino on deviantART


Vote Celestia by ~Equestria-Election on deviantART


FAIREST Cover 3 by *AdamHughes on deviantART


Dragon's Eyes by ~ZuTarart on deviantART


Cassie Cain by ~Kanish on deviantART


John F. Kennedy Alien Hunter Classified by *SharpWriter on deviantART


CAIN by *kizer180 on deviantART


Princess Mononoke by =sakimichan on deviantART


SWGTCG: Boba Fett by `ukitakumuki on deviantART


Batgirls detective squad. by ~Splittingadams on deviantART


Toph's new outfit by *kelly1412 on deviantART


Doodle_Toph vs Fire by *kelly1412 on deviantART


Sit On It by `ukitakumuki on deviantART


BRAVE by ~hakumo on deviantART

Comments

[blackruzsa]

The Robin Hood shot!
Love it when that happens, and yes, it can be done. I knew an archery coach who had a couple of speared arrows in his storage.

... sort of on and also off topic, but if Disney ever wants to go with an LGBT princess, they could go for Fet Fruners. One of my greatest wishes is for a movie of that story.

[brooms]

but if Disney ever wants to go with an LGBT princess

are we placing bets? i'd like to put some money on not in the next 50 years, pls. this goes for pixar as well.

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/blogosphere-blasts-pixar-over-brave-directors-exit-21877

[blackruzsa]

Where Disney disappoints me, I look to Dreamworks.
A longshot, I know, but anything's possible. And the story is an amazing story which would make for great cinematic effects.

[baihu]

I could see Dreamworks going there. To be honest, Dreamworks has started to build themselves a name for storytelling too, while Pixar's been jumping the shark a bit lately.

Cars 2, in NO shape or form, can be said to have a more epic or well-crafted story than either How to Train your Dragon or Kung Fu Panda 2.

[mishalak]

What makes you think Dreamworks would go there while Disney or Pixar would not?

To refresh my memory and make sure I was not biased by my uncertain memory I looked up the last five years of movies from them.

Disney:
Meet the Robinsons, Bolt, The Princess and the Frog, Tangled, Winnie the Pooh

Pixar:
Cars, Ratatouille, WALL-E, Up, Toy Story 3, Cars 2

Dreamworks:
Over the Hedge, Flushed Away, Shrek the Third, Bee Movie, Kung Fu Panda, Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa, Monsters vs Aliens, How to Train Your Dragon, Shrek Forever After, Megamind, Kung Fu Panda 2, Puss in Boots

I suspect you are right about Cars 2 having weak storytelling, though I have not seen it and I doubt I will ever bother watching it. However I think there is not a trend line there, yet. As my old math teacher said, "Two points to make a line, three to check yourself, and four because Saxon (the text book writer) is a wienie."

On the specific issue of GLBT characters, I doubt any of these companies will go there in the next decade. Someone will before I die in 2049, provided I live to the statistically average age for someone of my gender, but nothing soon. And the going there will be of the fairly mild gay/lesbian/transgendered/implied different best friend of the protagonist.

[brooms]

i'm pretty sure cars 2 was made to sell merchandise. movies like cars is what pays for pixar's other projects.

[mishalak]

I would take the other side on within 50 years. Things both change very quickly and not quickly at all. I mean look at how things seemed 15 years ago. I would not have expected gay marriage in eight states? True, gay people are a minority even moreso than blacks and how many parents would take their kids to a gay focused move even if rated "G", if such a thing is possible. On the other hand, Disney, for all its other faults, is pretty gay friendly. I think that in 25 years gay marriage will be everywhere in the United States and it is conceivable that the protagonist of a Disney movie will be LGBT if there is someone at Disney who gets enthusiastic about such a project. And given how big a portion of the Disney fanbase are gay men, I would not be surprised by a gay "princess", though somewhat more by a lesbian or transgendered one.

[brooms]

I would not be surprised by a gay "princess", though somewhat more by a lesbian or transgendered one

i would because disney's animated princess movies usually have a romantic subplot. if it was only about acknowledging a girl or a boy is queer, i could see it. but a lesbian or gay love story as the main romantic subplot? in a princess movie? i'll be surprised, yes.

[mishalak]

More on this in my journal, but 50 years is a very long time culturally. I think The Princess and the Frog would have blown a majority of the public's mind in 1959. "A black woman as a Disney Princess?!?"

I do not say that it will happen, just that I would not be surprised by it.

[mishalak]

Although, thinking about it again, Mulan is on the edge of transgender territory with the cross-dressing. Not actually in it, but close to.

Mod Note

[salinea]

Please do not equate crossdressing with transgenderism, not even as "close", as they are two completely separate things. Crossdressing is presenting as a different gender than one is, for a specific purpose, from entertainment to survival; whereas being Trans is one's gender identity being at odds with the one people assumed you were from birth, because of what one's body looked like. Trans people who present as the gender they identify with aren't crossdressing, which implies disguise and perhaps performance, they are presenting as the gender they genuinely are. Implying that the two are similar is both misrepresentative of Trans people and dismissive of other factors that lead to crossdressing.

[ravenous_raven]

Yes, I've definitely heard of a "Robin Hood" being done before though a couple is quite a feat!

[blackruzsa]

Usually that's once every few hundred tries, even if you ARE an expert marksman. He's just very well-seasoned, and one time or other he was in the zone enough to do it :)