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@ 2012-03-16 11:42 pm UTC
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Entry tags:char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, creator: eddy barrows, creator: kyle higgins, genre: previews, title: nightwing
Courtesy of Newsarama

As Dick finds out what happened to Raymond/Saiko years before





Odd that Dick doesn't seem to be using his escrima sticks, they'd be useful when fighting someone with hand blades, no?

But anyway....



The raw rat diet is looking pretty good by comparison.

The Court of Owls are indeed bastards of the first water! (I may have my little quirks, but that's too extreme for me thanks)


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[personal profile] jlbarnett
2012-03-17 12:28 am UTC (link)
over all I'm tired of villains blaming heroes for what other villains did to them

DC is doubling down on some tired old tropes and it's bugging me.

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aeka: (Huntress [whatevs]:)


[personal profile] aeka
2012-03-17 12:35 am UTC (link)
This.

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[personal profile] hyperactivator
2012-03-17 01:01 am UTC (link)
I could not agree more. This trope must wither and die. It's like blaming the weather man for the time you were mugged buying an umbrella.

It's stupid and contrived. Dick didn't do anything! If this guy hates what these people did to him he should be going after them and see Dick as mere obstacle.

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[personal profile] jlbarnett
2012-03-17 01:07 am UTC (link)
you know, I don't think anyone even does the obvious swerve, which is villain pretends to do his boss' bidding then reveals the conspiracy to the hero to make the real villain pay.

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majingojira: (Anti Spiral Giggle)


[personal profile] majingojira
2012-03-17 01:15 am UTC (link)
I can see Atomic Robo doing that to a recurring villain. Not Doctor Dinosaur, of course, but it would be wonderful to see a villain blaming the hero for his own incompetence/obsessions/whatever and the hero casually calling him on it.

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[personal profile] glprime
2012-03-17 04:11 am UTC (link)
Least we still have that idiot woman from Superman: Grounded as lower bound barometer for stupid blaming in comics.

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eyz: (Bruce Wayne)


[personal profile] eyz
2012-03-17 07:47 pm UTC (link)
So true!

sick of it.....

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[personal profile] maxisanacorn
2012-03-17 04:35 am UTC (link)
This.This.This.THISSSSSSS

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2012-03-17 10:04 am UTC (link)
I see what you mean but since Raymond is clearly madder than a box of frogs, him acting irrationally isn't that surprising, and since he viewed Dick as his brother, this isn't so much a random hate as it is a family resentment, and lord knows those can last for YEARS on the least provocation, so I can sort of let it slide.

My own problems with it are A) that it remains too much of a retcon of Dick's origin, the happy family and exciting circus background are now at least partially... sullied by this and B) Dick's first story arc in the DCnU is only tangentially about HIM, this doesn't feel like a defining Nightwing story, which would show us who he was in the DCnU, but a sodding lead-in to a Batman crossover. (And whilst I like the design of the Talons, the "Court of Owls" doesn't really engage me)

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[personal profile] halloweenjack
2012-03-17 04:20 pm UTC (link)
I think that they're trying to play off the notion of survivor's guilt--Dick having escaped from an abusive situation, but not rescued Raymond from it--but I don't know that it really translates well to this situation.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2012-03-17 10:01 pm UTC (link)
It's not really survivors guilt though, Dick never escaped an abusive situation, because he was never in an abusive situation, and had no reason to believe Raymond wasn't dead, because extrapolating the actions of the Court of Owls would be a stretch for even the world's not-quite-greatest detective.

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[personal profile] theatervine
2012-03-30 11:34 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. How is this Dick's fault, that this happened to him?

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