Preview for Nightwing #7
Mar. 16th, 2012 11:42 pmCourtesy of Newsarama
As Dick finds out what happened to Raymond/Saiko years before

Odd that Dick doesn't seem to be using his escrima sticks, they'd be useful when fighting someone with hand blades, no?
But anyway....

The raw rat diet is looking pretty good by comparison.
The Court of Owls are indeed bastards of the first water! (I may have my little quirks, but that's too extreme for me thanks)
As Dick finds out what happened to Raymond/Saiko years before
Odd that Dick doesn't seem to be using his escrima sticks, they'd be useful when fighting someone with hand blades, no?
But anyway....
The raw rat diet is looking pretty good by comparison.
The Court of Owls are indeed bastards of the first water! (I may have my little quirks, but that's too extreme for me thanks)

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Date: 2012-03-18 08:13 am (UTC)Except the only real changes have had an impact on an upcoming crossover event, so I think that answers your question right there.
I don't see Raya being any more important long term than, say, Liu, the "First love and first person Dick slept with" Marv Wolfman retconned in for an arc that basically was less about Nightwing and all about his upcoming Vigilante launch.
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Date: 2012-03-18 09:36 am (UTC)I don't look at the DCnU as a retcon and I don't think DC is either. I think DC's approach to Flashpoint is that everything that happened before Flashpoint still happened. They didn't do away with it. It still happened but Flashpoint and Barry Allen going back and forth in time created ripples in the time stream that altered everything.
Time travel is always such a sticky, messy plot to try and do in any medium and I think DC did it BETTER than most. Barry severely altered the world in his attempt to save his mother then in putting it right some of the damage was already done and it stuck.
I don't think the Court of Owls ever existed pre-Flashpoint but when the timestream rippled and shifted there was a catalyst that created them, that created a link between them and Haly's Circus.
LOL, all of this is just my long-winded way of saying that I don't look at the DCnU as a retcon. The characters and scenarios I grew up with still happened pre-Flashpoint but once that Barry Allen shaped stone got dropped in the calm pool everything changed. I don't mind a shorter timeline and altered character histories.
What will piss me off though is when DC starts retconning the post Flashpoint changes without another catalyst event like Flashpoint as the reasoning.
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Date: 2012-03-18 11:46 am (UTC)I think you're assuming I'm conflating the general and the specific. The fact the history overall has been changed, I have no real problem with, but altering fundamental concepts does annoy me. Certain truths hold to be self evident; Superman came from Krypton because it was blowing up, Batman became who he is because his parent's were shot in front of him, and Dick Grayson was a kid whose parents were killed by a mobster's protection racket and his idyllic exciting life in the circus replaced by a new life with Bruce Wayne as Robin.
Changing it so that he's a 16 year old is approaching the painful to start with and seems to highlight the sense of actual embarrassment some senior staff at DC have with their own history, making it so that his circus was actually run for the benefit of an evil hive of child torturing monsters is going way too far.
I'm not quite sure whether the Court of Owls existence before Flashpoint has any bearing on anything to be honest. This is the new "This is how it always was" status quo, and they are a part of it.