sherkahn: Monarch from the Venture Brothers (The Monarch)sherkahn ([personal profile] sherkahn) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily,
@ 2012-03-21 01:26 pm UTC
Entry tags:char: wonder woman/diana of themyscira, creator: brian azzarello, creator: cliff chiang
I have to credit BleedingCool.com for this.


I've touched on the Batman spoilers today, but they start off with the revelations about Diana and her people. It's a new low for DCnU.
It's a doozy and may not sit well with most of you. Heck, the new S_D protocols may even be triggered.

Fair warning, SPOILERS AHOY.



Shouldn't we have a tag for "everything you thought you knew was wrong."?

From the article:

"Paradise Island, has always been portrayed as a preserve of women, with new generations emerging… in an non-specific fashion. Formed from clay, or girls lost at sea transported to the island. The new Wonder Woman does away with any such niceties. The women of Paradise Island now set off on the seas looking for other ships, for seamen… or rather, semen. They have sex with the sailors, and then kill them. The sex may have been consensual, but what happened after certainly issn’t. Later, those that have conceived children give birth, the female children staying, the male children… becoming hellish slaves of the infernal weaponry workshop."


"It’s a nightmarish vision made real by Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chiang, the harshness of the stories of the Gods now made flesh in a much less palatable way. And given light to the thought that somewhere, working at a lithe, forging a mighty sword, unaware of his lineage, is Wonder Woman’s brother…
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I guess Donna is going to have a say about this other brother, and I am not too fond of this darker, seedy Paradise Island. It honestly sounds like a brothel/labor camp of the gods than an ideal community led by women, made of women, for the women.


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thespis: ([wonder woman] diana will kick your ass)


[personal profile] thespis
2012-03-21 10:56 pm UTC (link)
WHAT WHAT WHAT THE HELL.

What new generations? Have I missed something? The whole significance of Diana's birth was that she was the first child to be born on Themyscira ever. The darker edge to the Amazons' longevity and their idyllic homeland is their state of total exile: while they live in (for the most part) peace and prosperity, their society is stagnant. There are no children, no new generations of Amazons - until Diana.

As a general story concept, the idea of a female race of man-hating murderous rapists offends me. As a Wonder Woman story, it's downright horrifying and goes against everything the character represents.

Goddammit, Azzarello.

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[personal profile] thediiem
2012-03-22 02:34 am UTC (link)
One of the original points from Martson's comics was that the Amazons didn't need men to reproduce. They made new babies out of clay, using techniques given to them by their god, who was Aphrodite, given Martson's ethos. This was rapidly dropped once he was no longer writing Wonder Woman, and presented Diana as being the only such child made this way, Hippolyta being given a gift/leave to make herself a child by the gods.

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thespis: ([pushing daisies] bookworm)


[personal profile] thespis
2012-03-22 03:39 am UTC (link)
Ahh, this I didn't know; thanks. But certainly it's never been presented that way, post-Crisis.

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