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I think one of these might need a content warning. So, um...


Content Warning! Violence against Women!




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So, the DCnU Justice League book has a Shazam back-up. New backstory for Billy Batson. New backstory which turns Billy from this sweet natured little optimist to a tiny tool who has been kicked out of several foster homes.


Way to completely miss the point of the character, dudes.


Also, the Amazons are now mass-murdering slave owners.

Um.


Yeah.

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So, back in the day, there was an issue of the X-men in which Wolverine tries to stop Rachel from breaking the 'X-men don't kill' rule...



...by stabbing her to death.


Yeah.


I thought that it's kinda funny that Wolverine is back to being Mr Stabby Stabby Death Death and is friends with Rachel again. Although I guess it's less about him killing and more about him stopping others from killing. Though Rachel had totally killed before this. And Wolverine actually went back later and tried to murder the hell out of Selene.


So, in conclusion, I've totally lost track of what I was trying to say with this.

Whatever.
 

Date: 2012-03-22 03:47 pm (UTC)
perletwo: d'oh! (d'oh - wonder woman)
From: [personal profile] perletwo
Not that I don't agree with the sentiment, but I believe over in Wondyland the Amazons are now a buncha raping, murdering slave-sellers - as in, male babies = marketable commodity.

...Though I tend to read DCnU titles between fingers over my eyes, so it's possible I missed something about slaves on the island earlier...

Date: 2012-03-22 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
They apparently find ships full of men, seduce the crews in huge orgies, then kill them when they're done with them. Female babies conceived this way become new Amazons while male babies are given to Hephaestus to act as his labor force in exchange for his awesome weapons. The male ones are arguably the lucky ones, since they aren't being raised to be monsters.

Date: 2012-03-22 05:29 pm (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
That awful. Awfully poor logistics, that is. You've already got a slave trading ring ready, so why kill the seamen instead of shipping them to Hephaestus too? Waste not, want not people!

Okay, I just can't take this seriously.

Date: 2012-03-22 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
That would require keeping the men alive longer than absolutely necessary.

Date: 2012-03-23 05:41 am (UTC)
tsunamiwombat: (FistInYourFace)
From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
I...your just..trolling right? thats..thats not actually in the comic...

Date: 2012-03-23 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
If it's any consolation, the male babies grow up relatively healthy and happy since Hephaestus is actually a pretty decent father figure. He can relate to being abandoned by an uncaring parent.

Date: 2012-03-23 03:22 pm (UTC)
tsunamiwombat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
Somewhat. But when the Greek Gods themselves are better people than the Amazons? Good grief...

Date: 2012-03-23 05:38 am (UTC)
tsunamiwombat: (IAmUpset)
From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
MAN WHAT?

There is NO WAY thats....WAHT

Date: 2012-03-22 05:14 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Also, not sure about the "raping" aspect of it. They seduce the men, who apparenly all take part in the proferred nookie quite willingly (What happens to anyone not interested for whatever reason I have no idea, but I suspect the notion is that "All men really wants the wimmins"... or possibly "Gay blokes don't go on boats") and I don't think sex by deception due to ulterior motive is classed as rape... skeevy beyond words though it is.

Date: 2012-03-22 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kazeno
It's not universal, but some states consider rape by fraud to be a crime. What constitutes "fraud" in certain cases can be up to interpretation, though.

Date: 2012-03-22 06:35 pm (UTC)
whitesycamore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
That's generally in cases where people have consented to*one specific sex act* with *one specific person* and have been deceived into participating in something quite different, though. Mostly it's to do with impersonating another, specific, person, as in the case of the identical twin who tricked his brother's girlfriend into sex, or like in the case of Assange where he was accused of deliberately removing a condom and continuing to have intercourse with a woman without asking if she was willing to have unprotected sex with him.

In the case of the Amazons, the sailors seem to be consenting to all the sexual stuff, but not consenting to the whole 'being murdered' thing.

Date: 2012-03-22 07:13 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
In the case of the Amazons, the sailors seem to be consenting to all the sexual stuff, but not consenting to the whole 'being murdered' thing.

Selfish gits, only in it for what fun THEY get out of it. They have the sex, but ask them for one tiny thing in return and they get all "But I don't WANT to die" and "Please don't murder me"

Date: 2012-03-22 07:30 pm (UTC)
whitesycamore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
I know, right?! If anyone said something as selfish as that to me, I'd have to murder them just on principle.

I'm a very principled woman.

Date: 2012-03-23 03:39 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
tis very true. i mean look at what they are getting? gorgeous women who know things they only dreamed of? who wouldn't willingly die for that?

well... i wouldn't only because i'd be more interested in Cupid... but that is TOTALLY beside the point, i would totally let HIM murder me!

Date: 2012-03-23 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kazeno
Are they consenting? When I was reading, I thought they were being manipulated somehow, like with sirens.

Date: 2012-03-22 06:21 pm (UTC)
whitesycamore: (Kate's grin)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Gay blokes don't go on boats, as well they shouldn't. They attract sharks, they nudge people while they're shooting, and they muck about.

Date: 2012-03-23 03:39 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Red Robin WTF (Red Robin WTF)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
...i might be missing areference here.....

Date: 2012-03-22 06:51 pm (UTC)
tammy_moore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tammy_moore
Normally I would just assume lust ray, but 'probably not currently all rapists' is the best you can say about these NuAmazons so I don't want to take that away from them.

Actually, what do they do if there are women on board? Are they adopted? Enslaved? Killed, but the Amazons do feel bad about it afterwards?

'Posedion, we lay to rest our unknown sister, who died too young. A victim of Man's World-'

'Cassandra stabbing her didn't help.'

'Shut up, Briseis.'

'I'm just saying.'

'Well, don't.'

'Cutting her head off didn't make her feel any better either, I bet.'

'Briseis! Show some respect!'

'Sorry. You know, it's lucky we're all hot, young immortals isn't it? It makes seducing the men a lot easier...hey, are we sure we aren't Sirens? Has anyone checked?'

'We're sure! Now if you would just SHUT UP while we finish this-arrgh, splat thump.'

'Ewww, you stood in something icky. I told you we shouldn't all have sex on the deck. This is what happens. Plus it can't be very sanitary.'

(And so, Briseis was asked to leave the ranks of the Amazons.)



Date: 2012-03-22 07:16 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
See, I'd READ that comic...

Date: 2012-03-22 08:00 pm (UTC)
tammy_moore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tammy_moore
Whenever I get annoyed with something in comics I imagine there's just one person in the background - carping.

It makes me feel better.

And since Diana apparently doesn't know about this, I imagine the carper being in charge of coming up with the good lies.

'Where did we go? Oh, just to Dairy Queen. She is the one ruler in the man's world that we can trust.'

'Babies? Where do the babies come from? Umm...pies?'

Date: 2012-03-23 03:42 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
oh if they did somethignlike this it would be HILARIOUS

Date: 2012-03-23 03:43 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
godammit... why is it ilove that pornstache? its soo.... hypnotic....

Date: 2012-03-23 03:57 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
.....the village people never pretended to be anything they were not did they....

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