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Alan Scott really is the big guy of Earth-Two. Quite literally. He's very tall, he's dynamic, he's charismatic and he's also the bravest, most gallant man on the planet. He's like the great knight defending the Earth. He would die for his planet, he would die for his people. He is the epitome of what a hero should be. And I think even if he wasn't that way when he first began in the 1940s, he is kind of evolved to that in terms of his place in the Justice Society. I have always felt that he was that character and I have tried to keep that spirit and element of him alive.


Not really liking this overall theme of 'death' you're building here James. I'm also not sure of the message you're sending about a hero being the 'epitome of a hero' if he's willing to die for something...


From CBR:

What about long-time DC readers who love the Earth-Two concept? Has the storytelling and continuity of the past fifty years been erased?

Quite honestly, this is a return to the old pre-"Crisis" Earth-Two. This is what we had for decades before "Crisis on Infinite Earths." Since then, there has been this generational thing with an old Jay Garrick, an old Alan Scott and various other characters living in the same world as the main heroes. We're going back to the roots of what it used to be. These heroes are not old anymore. They are all in their twenties, anywhere between 21 and 28. But at the same time, I have made it very clear that there are differences to their powers and how they have their powers and why they have their powers. There is something that makes them unique to themselves and I think that's what made the original Earth-Two fun. We're bringing that concept back so I think readers of the old DC continuity, if they have an open mind and aren't too closed off to trying new things, will ultimately enjoy and get a lot out of it.


Taking notes here: dead Selina Kyle, dead Lois Lane, dead Amazons. Ruthless Batman who kills. Dark and broody Superman who starts contemplating killing. Angry Wonder Woman who's willing to kill to avenge her dead sisters. Already this doesn't sound like the pre-Crisis Earth-2 that I know. That Earth-2 was a *much* happier place to the one Robinson is building.

Also, I liked that Alan Scott and Jay Garrick were old men who were superheroes. It was part of what made the JSA a diverse superhero team in my opinion. Not sure if I'll find them as interesting as young blokes in their early to late 20s, but that could be in part due to the fact that *almost* everyone in the new DCU is in their 20s.

I wonder how old this makes Batman if he has a daughter in her early 20s? On that note, how early in Bruce's Batman career did he and Selina make Helena? o.O

Speaking of which:

Is Huntress still Bruce Wayne's daughter?

That's something you have to ask Paul Levitz. Remember, it's his character. I would be disrespectful to say too much about Huntress.


I'm just going to go ahead and jump to conclusions and say that she still is. I don't see why Paul Levitz would change this about her character's history since that's part of her appeal as a character, plus he's repeatedly mentioned Bruce and Selina in past interviews. More than likely, they're still Helena's parents.

On a completely unrelated note, I'm bloody tired of Robinson's default answer of 'wait and see.' Seriously mate, just answer the damn question. One word or line hinting at something shouldn't be too much of a spoiler.

Date: 2012-03-28 11:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
... he did say die alot.... i hope that his not him "giving clues" because i love alan, and TOTALLy have always seen him as the proverbial white knight.... i kinda like the costume (what we see of it) it remeinds me of the Sentinel costume.... but i hope he still has the cape...

Date: 2012-04-02 11:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naebler
Why do I get images of a merger of the Spectre and Alan Scott?

Date: 2012-03-28 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I really wish DC would acknowledge that some people like veteran badasses. I mean look at movies.

Date: 2012-03-28 11:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
True, but also, for comparison, look at "Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Crystal Skull"

And for the WWII heroic generation, it's not even "veteran" any more, it's "severely elderly". Some might still have the outlook, but few would have the physicality without a plot device which renders the "veteran" bit almost null and void.

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Date: 2012-03-28 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I think out of the regular heroes Batman would probably count as the vet--he was around a year or two longer in secret and all. Outside of that, Frankenstein has been around for centuries, if I remember right.

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Date: 2012-03-28 11:03 pm (UTC)
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If the concept is "Heroes who were active in the 1940's and it's now the present day", I can sort of see why death is being treated as a big deal, these are people with extraordinary powers and abilities, reaching the end of a natural (and in some cases, very healthy, lifespan). They're not facing an opponent they can fight, but old age. I think Ifind that healthier than coming up with yet ANOTHER reason why Rex Tyler, Alan Scott, Jay Garrick etc who should be in their late 80's at least, are still around.

Not saying that the RIGHT people are going to be deceased in this universe, but since we know that Lois is the ultimate love of Clark's life, seeing how he handles losing her to something as mundane as mortailty could be interesting (Unless we go all "Kingdom Come", which I realise the GL description does sort of remind me of)

I also have to stand by Robinson's "No comment" policy. If he's determined not to risk spoilers that's a very valid creative POV. The fact that we know live in an age where geek-centric information is spread faster than porn spam, means that such drastic methods really are about the only way to ensure surprises, and he will be being peppered by questions like that in EVERY interview.

Date: 2012-03-28 11:06 pm (UTC)
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I also have to stand by Robinson's "No comment" policy. If he's determined not to risk spoilers that's a very valid creative POV. The fact that we know live in an age where geek-centric information is spread faster than porn spam, means that such drastic methods really are about the only way to ensure surprises, and he will be being peppered by questions like that in EVERY interview.

this is my take too, BUT i will say, when he comes off as flippant as he does about some of his stuff, i can see where it would be annoying. i mean... either say something more than just some flippant shit, or don't say anything at all!

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Date: 2012-03-29 02:21 am (UTC)
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I also have to stand by Robinson's "No comment" policy. If he's determined not to risk spoilers that's a very valid creative POV. The fact that we know live in an age where geek-centric information is spread faster than porn spam, means that such drastic methods really are about the only way to ensure surprises, and he will be being peppered by questions like that in EVERY interview.

Agreed. Lately, there seems to be an unpleasant attitude cropping up among fandom that stuff like this -- interviews, Q & As, peaks behind the scenes -- are something the fans are *entitled* to, rather than what they actually are, a bonus provided at the creators' discretion. The product we're paying for is the story, not a direct line with the people behind it. Even if a writer were to maintain complete radio silence, that does not make them a jerk or ingrate or someone who doesn't respect the fans, as it has no bearing on their actual job, which is to, y'know, write stories.

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Date: 2012-03-28 11:40 pm (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
Better then that Lantern Armor thing he was wearing at the end of JSA.

Date: 2012-03-29 06:50 pm (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
Came here to post this.

Date: 2012-03-30 03:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] junipepper
Oh, God yes. Not that that's saying a lot...

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Date: 2012-03-28 11:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] michael_ellis_day
If DC wanted to honor the original meaning of Earth-2, what they could have done was use Earth-1. Take the Silver Age characters in use from 1959 through 1986 and show them aged and/or in semi-retirement. Show what they'd be a quarter of a century on, if the Crisis had never taken place. That would be more in keeping with the spirit behind Earth-2 than anything we've heard so far.

For that matter, if DC wanted this "new 52" to count for anything, what they ought to have done was create some truly revamped characters and made a clean breast of it -- make a new GL as different from Hal Jordan as Hal was from Alan, a new Flash as different from Barry Allen as Barry was from Jay. You could even borrow an idea from Marv Wolfman and have the new Flash be a comics fan who read about the Barry Allen Flash of Earth-1. As it is, they've done their restart in a very haphazard, confusing way.

Had they done both these things, a crossover between two sets of heroes from alternate Earths could have had the same meaning for readers that "Crisis on Earth-1/Crisis on Earth-2" once had. As it is, it's just two more bunches of heroes readers don't know yet and don't feel any emotional investment in. If you don't care about this comic, it's not your fault.

Date: 2012-03-28 11:42 pm (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
I thought Alan Scott's GL powers were magic based? It looks like here, he's part of the Corp and they are definitely more science than magic.

Well…

Date: 2012-03-28 11:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bewareofgeek
It's better than the "Lantern Lung" suit....

Date: 2012-03-28 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Definitely an improvement costume-wise.

"I'm also not sure of the message you're sending about a hero being the 'epitome of a hero' if he's willing to die for something..."

Well, hasn't that always been a mark of a hero? That is the ultimate self-sacrifice, after all, to take away your life so that someone else might live? I mean, you can definitely argue that there might be more darkness in here then there should be (I think the idea is that this world is going to be dark, but the people that will make up the "Justice Society" will be the one bright, shining light in this dark world), but I think that's a perfectly valid interpretation of a hero.

Date: 2012-03-29 02:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] arbre_rieur
Does anyone actually like the garish mess that is Alan Scott's "classic" costume? Not like it in a kitschy, ironic way, but genuinely think it looks good? Who, if seeing it debut on a brand new modern character, wouldn't go, "What the hell are they thinking?"

Date: 2012-03-29 10:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I've always though the classic costume looked a mess, personally, but never really found it that offensive because it was just.. Golden-Age. Nearly no-one's costume from that period looks good, like the old Sandman; There's a reason Matt Wagner and Guy Davis updated his look.

But as it is, Alan's old costume is a mess. Green, red, purple cape with a green interior? You can tell the guy's colour schemes are due to the more old-fashioned printing methods and they just stuck.

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Date: 2012-03-29 03:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gamerguy
I honestly can't discern much difference so far in look, feel or tone between Earth 1 and 2, save for Jay's costume and a girl Robin.

Date: 2012-03-29 03:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thanekos
Alan's got Sinestro bracers. Nice.

Date: 2012-03-29 05:27 am (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
Left-handed with the ring, too.

Date: 2012-03-29 03:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jkcarrier
They are all in their twenties, anywhere between 21 and 28. But at the same time, I have made it very clear that there are differences to their powers and how they have their powers and why they have their powers. There is something that makes them unique to themselves and I think that's what made the original Earth-Two fun.

What made Earth-2 fun, IMHO, is that the E-2 gang got to have their happy ending. They reaped the rewards of a life well-lived: Settling down, getting married, having kids, (semi-) retiring...all the stuff that the eternally-young Earth-1 heroes would never get to do. It allowed for different types of stories. If they're just gonna be more angsty 20-somethings, then what's the point?

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Date: 2012-03-29 08:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aeolos_sakya
Parallax existed on Earth-2?
Oh, that's Alan. Sorry.

Date: 2012-03-29 12:17 pm (UTC)
wizardru: SadHulk (SadHulk)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
The first thought I had when seeing this image was: "I thought this post was about Alan Scott and Earth-2, not Hal Jordan going ally cray-cray in an upcoming issue."

Then I saw it was and I had a sad.

Then I read what Robinson said and I had another sad.

Date: 2012-03-30 02:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] featheredserpent
He's on fire so the ninjas can't catch him.

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