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Here's a webcomic from "Let's Be Friends Again". Trigger warning: It alludes to the Trayvon Martin tragedy.




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Date: 2012-04-01 02:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fungo_squiggly
But I wasn't talking about stupidity as in racism. I was talking about stupidity as in passing a law that gives Floridians massive leeway in using deadly force because they "feel threatened," and makes it difficult to prosecute someone who is claiming self-defense. The law, by the way, was passed over the objections of every law agency in Florida, according to the articles I have read.

Under Florida law, the burden of proof is on the state to prove that Zimmerman didn't "feel threatened." That is not an easy thing to prove, especially since Trayvon Martin is dead and unable to tell his side of the story. So it may be that, in this case as in several others that have hinged on the "stand your ground" law, the hands of the police were tied.

Even though Zimmerman pursued Trayvon. Even IF Zimmerman started a fight with the kid. Even IF Zimmerman threw the first punch. IF Trayvon fought back and Zimmerman THOUGHT... even for an instant... that his own life was in danger, legally, Zimmerman was entitled to use deadly force in order to "defend" himself.

Is it morally right? Nope. Is it insane? Yup. But that's the law as it currently stands.

If you think I'm exaggerating, I encourage you took look up a few articles on the dozen or more highly questionable deaths where the killer walked free thanks to our beloved "stand your ground" law. It's illuminating.

Date: 2012-04-01 02:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
It's the same goddamn thing. If you pass a law saying you can shoot anyone who you think is a threat, and a lot of people are threatened by black men, guess what the end result's going to be?

You have to stop thinking of racism as something deliberate. Even if all the legislators and police and vigilantes are all pure as the driven snow (ha ha) and have no racist thoughts whatsoever, if they end up creating a system where a disproportionate number of black men get shot dead and their murderers go free, guess what? It's still a racist system!

Why would the individual picture even matter? How would you even prove anything either way, short of Zimmerman or the police officers or the lawmakers coming forward and confessing 'yes yes, we hate black people'?

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