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From the dim and distant shores of 1986 comes a tale of corporate vengeance, bad hair, dodgy moral outrage and short-shorts....



It also features an appearance by one of my favourite c-list heroes...


Now the idea of the plotline called "Armor Wars" was a good one, after fighting Force Iron Man discovers that a lot of his tech looks like his own, and finds that villain-financier and powerbroker Justin Hammer had, at some point in the past, used the criminal Spymaster to steal specs of some of Tony Starks technology, particularly his Iron Man technology, and had, as a result, been using Tony's tech to commit crimes, for years. Tony is both appalled and stricken with guilt by this. He feels it's his lack of precautions which has led to massive crime and destruction, and so sets out to rectify matters.

I'd always sort of liked Iron Man, not for Iron Man, and certainly not for Tony Stark, but for the villains (The first Iron Man comic I ever bought featured the Dreadnaughts... and well, armoured villains are cool, I didn't need any more justification than that at the time.

Cue a long list of armoured characters in short cameos, getting their Starktech derived systems permanently scrambled to dysfunction by a special "Negator Pack" module Tony has created. Simply placing it in contact with Iron Man derived tech sends the tech into irreversible inoperability (Handy that); The Controller, the Stilt-Man, Crimson Dynamo, the Raiders, Mandroids and the Titanium Man all find this out the hard way. But iIn the course of the fight with the Controller, an innocent kid was killed, which more or less pushs Tony over the edge, a child died because of HIS tech...

So far, so good (Well, not for the kid, but you know what I mean), it's a proper challenge to Iron Man, has plenty of opportunities for cameos by armoured villains past and present and fun and action.

Then things get even messier, as now the obvious suspects are off the table, Tony has to look further...





This paranoid rant is interrupted by a call from the West Coast Avengers, who want a word with Tony about his actions...



Oh god,the drama of the moment is always ruined by that perm... that ghastly, ghastly perm... Look, I know the mulletwing is bad, but it's nothing compared toTony's do, and Wonder Man's... whatever you call THAT thing isn't too great either)

Tony decides to take a couple of hours downtime, which sort of cuts into the drama, but we do get this priceless exchange in return as his ladyfriend du jour explains why she might not be as into him as he might have thought...



I had to include that bit for the shorts... I regret nothing.

Meanwhile, back at the A-plot, Tony has Rhodey fly him by chopper to meet with Walter Newell, Stingray's secret identity. He assures Rhodey that he plans to ask Stingray politely if he can examine his armor, assuming that his one of the good guys, but admits he's taken the Iron Man armour "just in case".

Now, note that not only is Walter a hero in good standing as far as anyone knows, he's the custodian of the East Coast Avengers then-current base of operations.

I've always had a soft spot for Stingray, he's not a major hero, he's a scientist and explorer, a naturalist who uses the Stingray suit to study the ocean depths. He DOES fight crime from time to time, but it's not his day job. Plus I LOVE the costume, I've always been a sucker for manta rays, they just look so damn cool and his design is a nice take on that....



Ummm... Tony, what the hell happened to "ask politely"? You've just asked the guy to, essentially, strip off and hand him his clothes.







Well, don't YOU feel like an asshole now Tony?

Late addition - Actually reading this it's worse than I thought, Iron Man actually says to himself "He wasn't lying..." Tony you asswipe you didn't wait long enough to even ASK him a question, never mind listen to a reply, so "lying" doesn't remotely enter into the equation.



"...this afternoon"

And Tony's oh-so sincere action to remedy things? He publicly berates Iron Man "My colleague and friend" for pursuing a personal vendetta against Tony's orders and fires him....

Yup, he fires HIMSELF for his actions... and it was at this point I realised I could never look at Iron Man the same way again... even if he DID get a hair cut.

(Oh, and there will another appearance by Stingray in the near future, as I explore the origins of the Serpent Society)

Date: 2012-03-31 11:43 pm (UTC)
freezer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] freezer
Didn't Tony do the exact same thing a few years later, pretty much trashing The Vault in the process?

Date: 2012-03-31 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Funny bit of irony--I was watching some episodes of the Avengers: EMH, got to the beginning of the Wonder Man episode, thinking, "God, Tony's an asshole," and then I got an e-mail for this entry.

But yeah, while one could argue that Stingray wasn't a perfect ray of sunshine there either (what, he never thought to ask why Tony wanted the armor?), but that definitely wasn't Tony's finest hour.

And while I can't say that I little thing like the occasional dick move would make me stop liking a character (I'm a Batman fan, FFS), I can definitely see how that could be the case here.

Date: 2012-04-01 12:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] michael_ellis_day
Unfortunately, the whole fight thing doesn't happen if Dr. Newell does what any rational person would do under those circumstances: "Of course you know those procedures are in place because we live in a world where shape-changers can impersonate heroes and hypnotists an mind control them with radioactive clay. We don't want some bad guy stealing this armor tech by posing as you, right?" ("How ironic!" thinks Tony.) "So, convince me you're you and not acting under any compulsion and give me a quick briefing why you need me to skip proper protocol, and I'll walk away from here in my skivvies if need be." Instead, he acts like a six year old and runs away screaming. He has to act like an idiot or the rest of the story doesn't happen. That takes me right out of my willing suspension of disbelief.

P.S.: like you, I really dug Stingray and the whole "actual working scientist, not crimefighter" angle. I wish he'd been used better!

Date: 2012-04-01 12:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
Stingray's a fave of mine, too!

In the 1994 Iron Man,/i> cartoon, they did a two-part ep base on the "Armor Wars" storyline. Even had Stingray in it, voiced by R. Lee Ermey!

Date: 2012-04-01 12:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goggle_kid
Does anyone else thing Stingray would make a sweet Marvel Legends figure?

Date: 2012-04-01 04:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blake_reitz
I too, have always liked Stingray. I actually don't know a thing about him, but his costume is just so striking.

Date: 2012-04-01 06:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] biod
I think I may be alone in my love of bad hero hair.

Date: 2012-04-01 09:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Stingray? Does he have this as his theme song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06cNv55jTs

Date: 2012-04-01 02:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brooms
here for the martina nav shout out.

Date: 2012-04-01 07:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] randyripoff
In the 40-odd years I've been reading comics, one thing has proven to be true over and over again:

"Sometimes, in order to advance the plot, a normally sensible and rational character must act like a complete lunatic."

And yes, IMO, that is poor writing.

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