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starwolf_oakley ([personal profile] starwolf_oakley) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2012-04-15 16:55

AVENGERS (vol 3) #12: Vision and Wanda

AVENGERS (vol 3) #12: Vision and Wanda talk some things over before and after the big Thunderbolts team up against a giant alien robot (called Dominex.) Note the pretty Perez artwork.





Vision mentions where he and Wanda went on their honeymoon. And it isn't what the Vision is saying, but how he is saying it.



Yes, the Vision just got his memories back *and* the emotional connection to them.
How? Comics!



Vision doesn't want Wanda to feel guilty and doesn't want to feel guilty himself. He just doesn't want to intrude... or something. The big fight against Dominex interrupts matters.

Kurt Busiek wanted to mix Silver Age idealism with 1990s complexity. I think he succeeded for the most part.

I could gripe about Bendis for entire pages, but it is like he only read John Byrne's WEST COAST AVENGERS run and just went with that. It really bugs me sometimes, and I'm not as big a continuity geek as many others. (And I'm a BIG continuity geek.)
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[personal profile] dahlia_moon 2012-04-15 22:25 (UTC)(link)
:( I'm a pretty big Wanda/Vision fan, and that's having only read like a 1/3 of their special where they're happily married and awesome together and I forget that there's like this WHOLE OTHER stuff with them where they're like any other superhero couple with angst galore. T___T
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2012-04-15 22:28 (UTC)(link)
Ah the Busiek/Perez run. the last time I actually regularly bought the Avengers title! (And back when there was only one, rather than Regular, Secret, Academy, Lite, Zero Caffeine, and whatever else they have these days)

(Oh, and you might want to edit your tags, it's Kurt Busiek, not Keith :) )
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[personal profile] jcbaggee 2012-04-15 23:26 (UTC)(link)
Was this the sequence where his phasing is screwed up and he terrifies Wanda as he comes through the wall?
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[personal profile] ian_karkull 2012-04-16 00:50 (UTC)(link)
Yeah well, that was the last time they really published an actual Avengers book instead of a dozen iterations of the Bendis' Talking Head Cavalcade. Secret Avengers has gotten really good under Remender though, it actually feels like an Avengers book again. I'll have to post some of it soon.
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[personal profile] citygod 2012-04-16 01:37 (UTC)(link)
I'll have a Zero Caffeine Avengers, please, and a spelt crust X_Men.
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[personal profile] lascoden 2012-04-16 02:31 (UTC)(link)
I get the feeling that Remender just wanted to do a classic Avengers book. None on the roster, except Black Widow and maybe Venom, really do stealth. Hell, one of them is constantly on fire. And War Machine is pretty much about the exact opposite. And they're being led by Hawkeye, a guy who loves showing off. They even have a no-killing rule, something I don't think fits with a black-ops team.
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[personal profile] lascoden 2012-04-16 02:32 (UTC)(link)
I know some people's reaction to New Coke and New Avengers was pretty much the same. Wonder how much overlap there was?

[personal profile] spacebetween 2012-04-16 02:32 (UTC)(link)
That would have been when he was a hologram in Avenger's Mansion while his body was being repaired in the basement after Morgan Le Fay damaged him when she recreated the world to her design. This is after he has been repaired

[personal profile] spacebetween 2012-04-16 02:36 (UTC)(link)
Disassemble was when I stopped buying Avengers, which was when Bendis actually took over. Since they I have been paying attention to what people either scan or tell me about it. Rather glad I'm not wasting the money.
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[personal profile] auggie18 2012-04-16 05:09 (UTC)(link)
He isn't crying in the last panel? NOT THE VISION. THE VISION IS ALWAYS CRYING. This must be some other robot.
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[personal profile] kusonaga 2012-04-16 06:16 (UTC)(link)
New Coke happened about twenty years earlier.
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[personal profile] lascoden 2012-04-16 06:20 (UTC)(link)
I know, I just meant how many of the people that hated New Coke then, hated New Avengers when it came out. Or loved both.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2012-04-16 07:14 (UTC)(link)
Oooh yeah, the Medieval Avengers, only George Perez would redesign something like 35 characters for a two or three issue story, just for the challenge, and make them look quite so spectacular!
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[personal profile] eyz 2012-04-16 07:22 (UTC)(link)
I love Perez art of that era^^
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[personal profile] lascoden 2012-04-16 10:53 (UTC)(link)
...Isn't that the costume of Wanda's that Perez wholeheartedly admitted he drew as her going commando?
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[personal profile] wizardru 2012-04-16 18:58 (UTC)(link)
No, no...you're thinking of Red Tornado.
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[personal profile] auggie18 2012-04-17 02:18 (UTC)(link)
According to him, Wanda was always going commando. I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say Perez had a thing for Wanda.

[personal profile] spacebetween 2012-04-17 05:01 (UTC)(link)
I know, and some of the redesign were amazing. While they were different designs, you could tell who they were. A few of them were tricky to pick. Plus they gave everyone new names as well.

I still love George Perez's all (at the time) Avengers/Justice League art. George Perez is one of my favourite artists.