FF #17 - How do you solve a problem like Johnny Storm

[sherkahn]

We saw the preview earlier, and at times I can hear The Hangover movie theme playing in the background as I read this fun issue, and at times I hear "How do you solve a problem like Maria?"

yeah, I'm weird like that.

So many choice pages to post, but I have already posted 2, so I can only do 2 more.








Yes, that is Mary Jane Watson getting funky with Johnny Storm.

Comments

[shadowpsykie]

yeah.... but the Arthur Guinevere lancelot story, aside from Mort D Artur (which only ever glanced over it) was a lot more complicated than that.....

[icon_uk]

Is it? Guinevere was married to Arthur, she and Lancelot had the hots for each other. She cheated on the man she married, and Lancelot slept with his King/best friends wife.

What's complicated about that?

[shadowpsykie]

depends on which interpretations you are reading. some of it is interpreted as Lancelot's displaced or confused love for Arthur. Another interpretation was that Arthur was more concerned with camelot than with guinevere (and though he DID love her he neglected her) in many interpretations and translations Arthur KNEW about the relationship and while he could not officially condone it, he over looked it because they were both people he loved and he knew that he had not been as attentive as he could/should have been. really, if they were just allowed to have the three way, things would ahve worked out (Arthur/Guinevere/lancelot are the poster children for "One True Threesome")

[brooms]

yeah, i've read mists, too, and i still found lancelot a piece of shit douchebag friend in that, too.

i just really don't care for either lancelot or guinevere in mosts versions of the legend, tbh. they just rub me in the worst possible way. i'm in it for arthur, iseult and the witches.

[shadowpsykie]

the Lancelot, Guinevere, Arthur triangle is one of my favorite things in Arthurian Myth. though Morgan, Morgause, were also a favorite of mine

[arilou_skiff]

Most of the versions I've read has it that Lancelot loves Arthur too much to run away with Gvuienvere but loves Guienevere too much to stay away (permanently, he tends to try) Gwen loves Arthur too much to just elope and Lancelot too much to let him go, and Arthur loves both of them too much to get in the way of the fact that they love each other.

Hence tragedy.

[shadowpsykie]

exactly! they all agonize over it. but for some reason i love it (and hate it, JUST BE THREE TOGETHER!)

[icon_uk]

Is it really love if by staying you KNOW you're causing pain to two other people, and possible devastation to their realm?

[arilou_skiff]

You do know love was classified as a mental illness by many medieval doctors, right?

[brooms]

i think we're all reading differemt versions (i read le morte, the once and future king, and mists out of the really famous ones, ftr), because in the ones i read, i... don't really see that much love going around?

only in mists, and mists is complicated because arthur was into morgaine.

in TO&FK, arthur is mostly into his duty, and the drama rests more on lancelot/guinevere and elaine. gwen doesn't really gives a fuck about arthur, lance does in a twisted way. both are horrible people (imo).