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Entry tags:char: captain america/steve rogers, char: wolverine/logan/james howlett, event: avengers vs. x-men


Cyclops tricks the Avengers and the X-Men escape Utopia thanks to Illyana.

Cap sends the Avengers to various locations to look for Hope. Wolvie and Cap take a walk to compare half baked strategies and well this happens...











Additional Spoiler:

At first I was going to bitch about Rachel being Cyclops' mole in Logan's School, but then I remembered when Wolvie tried to kill her when she was the Phoenix's host. Which if that's what they end up using to justify her siding with Cyke is actually a) good writing and B) an astonishing nod to continuity.

Edit:

If they believe the Phoenix's arrival means a rebirth for them, then it makes sense for most (if not all) of the mutants to side with the other mutants. But I don't get how the Phoenix arriving equates jump starting mutant baby births.

Cap and Logan both have flawed strategies about what to do about the Phoenix but at least their reactions to it make (some) sense.

Cyclops' doesn't. It's not like the Phoenix has been so helpful to him and his in the past. If anything he should be the first one trying to hide Hope and plotting a way to reroute/destroy it.


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damar148: (pic#1347559)


[personal profile] damar148
2012-05-02 05:20 pm UTC (link)
Now that was a bad showing for Cap, getting his ass kicked in a fight he started, and requiring someone else to actually defeat Logan.

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r0b666: (Hawkeye)


[personal profile] r0b666
2012-05-02 05:24 pm UTC (link)
True, but Cap beating Logan one on one would be a little hard to swallow. It's a dick move by Cap but I can't say I blame him. You know how Logan is when he gets all stab-ity.

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bjornwilde: (dark woods)


[personal profile] bjornwilde
2012-05-02 08:39 pm UTC (link)
Unless it was stratic thinking to get Logan focused on him and not the other team members flanking Logan.

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biod: Cute Galactus (Cute Galactus)


[personal profile] biod
2012-05-02 05:20 pm UTC (link)
Bu- but I thought Wolvie and Cap were on the same side? *Garglesnarf*
About Rachel, she and Cyclops were reconnecting right before Schism, I believe, so it's not that much of a stretch for her to stay loyal to her old man. Plus, the whole stabbing incident.

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r0b666: (Hawkeye)


[personal profile] r0b666
2012-05-02 05:30 pm UTC (link)
Ultimately it makes sense for most (if not all) of the mutants to side with the other mutants, if you believe it means a rebirth for them, but I don't get how the Phoenix arriving equates jump starting mutant baby births.

Cap and Logan both have flawed strategies but their reactions to the Phoenix make sense. Cyclops' doesn't. It's not like the Phoenix has been so helpful to him and his in the past. If anything he should be the first one trying to hide Hope and plotting a way to reroute/destroy it.

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cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)


[personal profile] cainofdreaming
2012-05-02 07:03 pm UTC (link)
If it was just Wolverine I wouldn't find it, well, at least somewhat possible. But it also means betraying the trust of Kurt and Kitty, which I have hard time seeing her do. I would think that she'd confide in either one or both of them, and try to work out an arrangement that'd keep Scott and Logan out of each other's hair.

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[personal profile] darkknightjrk
2012-05-02 05:34 pm UTC (link)
So then...does this mean that Logan is Kirk and Cap is Spock? ...I can kinda see it.

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elwood: (pic#365833)

I still don't get it


[personal profile] elwood
2012-05-02 05:45 pm UTC (link)
This still seems wrong to me.

They have done all these years of Avenger's comics with Wolvie on the team. All these times of mutual respect the two have for each other. And, what is going on here is enough for them to just throw this away?

I assume after this, Wolverine is no longer going to be an Avenger? I assume there will be no more trust between Cap and Logan?

Sorry, but I still think you can have a big crossover but have the relation ships make sense in a way that people can relate to them. Otherwise call everything a what-if and go to town.

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r0b666: (Hawkeye)

Re: I still don't get it


[personal profile] r0b666
2012-05-02 05:51 pm UTC (link)
I agree. It's lazy writing for the most part. Instead of having people act in ways consistent to their characters and justifying their actions they just have people dicking each other over to justify their fanboy wet dream battle royal.

Cap: "Killing that girl won't stop the Phoenix"
Wolvie: "Neither will hiding her"
Cap: "Well.... your mother!!!" *punches him in the face*

It's Civil War all over again. A big fight over nothing.

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Re: I still don't get it - [personal profile] starwolf_oakley, 2012-05-03 03:57 am UTC (Expand)
flint_marko: (Magneto)


[personal profile] flint_marko
2012-05-02 05:52 pm UTC (link)
It's good to know Cap has a problem with Wolverine trying to kill a teenaged girl.

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salinea: (chagall)


[personal profile] salinea
2012-05-02 05:53 pm UTC (link)
yeah.

Good for him.

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espanolbot: (pic#364881)


[personal profile] espanolbot
2012-05-02 06:14 pm UTC (link)
Weird, this was the solution I suggested to dispose of Logan when the preview pages were posted here a little while back.

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r0b666: (Hawkeye)


[personal profile] r0b666
2012-05-02 06:15 pm UTC (link)
You should sue for royalties.

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salinea: (chagall)


[personal profile] salinea
2012-05-02 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Clearly you are Brubaker in hiding.

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thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (pic#378054)


[personal profile] thatnickguy
2012-05-02 06:14 pm UTC (link)
THIS! IS! AVENGERS! *kick*

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2012-05-02 06:24 pm UTC (link)
At first I was going to bitch about Rachel being Cyclops' mole in Logan's School, but then I remembered when Wolvie tried to kill her when she was the Phoenix's host. Which if that's what they end up using to justify her siding with Cyke is actually a) good writing and B) an astonishing nod to continuity.

Actually, Rachel later agreed that Logan had been right to stop her killing Selene because with the Phoenix Force inside her, once she started getting judgemental to the point of summary execution with a thought, she'd have been heading down a VERY slippery slope which rarely ended well.

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r0b666: (Hawkeye)


[personal profile] r0b666
2012-05-02 06:26 pm UTC (link)
Maybe. But if someone stabs me in the heart and lungs to save an enemy "just because" when they've killed more people than cancer I'm not going to drop it so easily.

But that's just me I suppose.

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auggie18: (Karate Kid)


[personal profile] auggie18
2012-05-02 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, but there's a bit of a difference between "I agree you did the right thing" and "I'm totally cool with the fact that you stabbed me in the heart."

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auggie18: (Karate Kid)


[personal profile] auggie18
2012-05-02 06:51 pm UTC (link)
Wait, Rachel's in this? I thought she was in a Phoenix coma for some reason. Dagnabit, now I actually sorta want to read this. (I've bought a lot of stuff were because characters I like appear, even when the roles are tiny.)

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salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)

Mod Note


[personal profile] salinea
2012-05-02 06:57 pm UTC (link)
At first I was going to bitch about Rachel being Cyclops' mole

A reminder: [community profile] scans_daily is a feminist community. Because of that we'd like to avoid people using gendered terms like "bitch" in a negative fashion.

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shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)

Re: Mod Note


[personal profile] shadowpsykie
2012-05-02 07:05 pm UTC (link)
Out of curiosity can we say bitch in a possitive way such as "i/she is one bad ass bitch" or "i/she may be a bitch, but she owns it?"

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r0b666: (Hawkeye)

Re: Mod Note


[personal profile] r0b666
2012-05-02 07:40 pm UTC (link)
I am not going to argue, but that's a little overkill. I obviously meant it as a synonym for "complain" or "rant".

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[personal profile] vitruvian23
2012-05-02 08:40 pm UTC (link)
It's not like the Phoenix has been so helpful? Aren't you forgetting about the entirety of both Rachel and post-cocoon Jean's careers as Phoenix? Or even the majority of original dupe/energy body Jean's tenure as Phoenix, before Mastermind messed with her mind, including saving not just the X-Men but the entire universe?

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sherkahn: (Shere Kahn)


[personal profile] sherkahn
2012-05-02 08:43 pm UTC (link)
Hmmm... nobody's commented that this will not bode well for the Avenger's afterwards, as Logan doesn't do well with grudges.

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r0b666: (Hawkeye)


[personal profile] r0b666
2012-05-02 08:55 pm UTC (link)
If everyone in the Marvel universe who Logan had a grudge against had a nickel you know what we'd have.

A universe full of characters who all have at least 5 cents to their name.

Besides, what's he gonna do? Bleed all over Thor?

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crabby_lioness: (pic#371828)


[personal profile] crabby_lioness
2012-05-02 11:58 pm UTC (link)
You didn't show Ilyana taking down Strange and busting them all out? That's the only good part of this sorry issue.

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r0b666: (Sandman & Death)


[personal profile] r0b666
2012-05-03 09:51 pm UTC (link)
I didn't want to go over the page limit. I also figured the fight was what most people would want to weigh in on.

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