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2 pages from Uncanny X-Men #11 & 3 pages from AvsX #3


There's your "solid, unqualified win", Cap.

Here Tony makes one of those "you're starting to sound like me" speech that Magneto has been giving Scott a lot lately.

Scott plays dirty.

I like it.

Date: 2012-05-02 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] abriel
Whatever. You can believe what you will. I just...I can't. I'm sorry.

I am sure that there is a point to this whole mess but this just doesn't work for me. This whole crossover/run/event has just been a travesty and is yet another death knell in not only the X-Men franchise but most of Marvel for me period.

The Avengers aren't wanting to take Hope into protection because she's a mutant. They are wanting to do it to prevent her from being possessed by a cosmic entity that eats planets.

Are they naive in doing so? Maybe. But the X-Men are being naive too, in thinking that they can control the parrot.. Everyone here is being an idiot. But this...this to me is just the latest in a long string of events within the X-Men franchise that have made me feel angry, hurt, and betrayed because to me they are now a sad shadow of what they once were.

The X-Men used to be a metaphor for tolerance, striving to coexist with others in a world despite each other's differences...even embracing them. Now they've become a damn militant isolationist organization that reads more like they are embracing Magneto's philosophy rather than Xavier's.

And I am disgusted by it. And nothing will change my feelings.

Sorry, that's just how I feel. I feel like I've been shat on, since I used to love them so much and was such a fan growing up.

And before anyone starts: Yes I already said the Avengers are being dicks too. This whole run is a fucking joke. But that that's been Marvel for the past decade or so.

Date: 2012-05-02 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I believe the world has isolated the X-men not the reverse, but I don't respect the MU. I frequently think all the heroes should just terraform another planet and let Galactus eat Earth. Sure the heroes fight occasionally but it's generally about deling with the public.

As for the Avengers and the X-men and the Phoenix and who's being more naive, the Phoenix has spent far more time controllable than a destructive entity

Date: 2012-05-03 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] abriel
believe the world has isolated the X-men

Gonna have to disagree with you there but then the writing in MU is, as I said, a joke. But if the world are the ones doing the persecuting then the way the X-Men are reacting isn't the best way. It hasn't been for a decade now. Militant isolationism isn't the way to go. Threatening people and giving ultimatums isn't going to improve the situation, just make it worse.

As for the Parrot....well, whatever it has been or hasn't been in the past, this run thus far has it eating planets on its way to Earth. It's pretty damn destructive now.

And as I said, both teams are equally acting like a bunch of dumbasses. This entire arc is having everyone on both sides acting like a bunch of naive know-it-alls who are acting way out of character, all to satisfy fanboys who spend their days wanking on Internet comic "battle" forums debating over who can beat who.

And while normally I would be okay with that as I confess being curious myself at times, the way they are going about staging this particular battle to me is just all wrong. Why do we need to keep bringing the damn Phoenix into things? A good reason for the two teams to fight already exists in the form of the Scarlet Witch. Why drag the Parrot (you can tell I'm sick of the damn thing) into it? Why put the focus on Hope again? Why is everyone acting so stupid? Why aren't they trying to work together? Why are they acting so out of character?

Just...this arc just doesn't work for me. At all.

Date: 2012-05-03 02:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] schala_kid
As for the Avengers and the X-men and the Phoenix and who's being more naive, the Phoenix has spent far more time controllable than a destructive entity

The Phoenix is pretty much unpredictable, it can be a force of destructiveness and a force of good but you can't really know the outcome. Jean tamed it sometimes but other times the Phoenix got the best of her.

No one knows if Hope is going to be able to control the Phoenix and IMO it's a 50/50 chance.

Not to mention the Phoenix is destroying worlds on its way to earth, I can see why the Avengers are worried and don't want it to come.

It's not just a mutant matter anymore.

But I am going with abriel, everyone is acting like idiots.


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