Vision vs Magneto

[salinea]

So apparently I missed this, which I've hastened to rectify because I shall not miss out of anything of the great Magnus family EPIC TRAGEDY.

Context: Ironman has just rebuilt/awakened Vision and brings him up to date with what happened in Disassembled, and him and She-Hulk make sure to namedrop Magneto in a blaming way because Bendis doesn't write in a contrived way at all and apparently nobody believes Doom.

So Vision decides to pay his former father-in-law a visit.
















... well that was brutal.


(Don't ask me how that fits with the Vision's one tear of sadness when Wanda did visit the Avengers in AvsX #0).

Comments

[mrstatham]

So the Vision must be the most conflicted guy ever. First he basically tells Wanda to go fuck herself and the Avengers back him up in an utterly bros before hos manner, and now he's all "I NEED MY HUGGY WANDA WOOBIE BOOBOO!". Make up your mind, guy!

Also, Magneto - Really not helping portray your side as good guys when you stoop to the usual level of 'superhero misunderstanding fight' without it even being a misunderstanding.

[salinea]

I think the thing with Wanda was after, timeline wise. Still pretty weird of him. Hilariously, both were written by Bendis.

You know... Magneto was not particularly nice at first (which I'm not sure why unless I'm missing some background which is very possible given how little I've read with Vision); but after Vision actually asked him why he didn't kill himself yet... I can't blame him for losing his cool. Because, dude, not cool.

[nyadnar17]

I don't care what kinda of point someone has. Dude walks into my house and grabs me by the heart I am putting him through a wall....assuming I survive the first part of course.

[darkknightjrk]

"and apparently nobody believes Doom."

Considering how half-assed and shitty the end of Children's Crusade was, they really shouldn't.

Also, with the way Vision's thrown out, I can't help but think of this.

[crabby_lioness]

Vision doesn't seem to grok the bit about being nice to people whom you are asking for help.

[salinea]

yeah, Doom's "I was I all along!" was pretty half assed, so that part is no surprise. But to blame Magneto, of all people, for Disassembled OR Decimation (>_>) felt just... pretty facepalmey.

[salinea]

Yeah.

[darkknightjrk]

Oh, I thought Vision was blaming Magneto for House of M.

[salinea]

I'm not even sure how much the Avengers told Vision about House of M (which they jumped to blame on Magneto and was actually Pietro's fault all along >_>). But yeah, mostly they were blaming him for Disassembled.

[salinea]

Heh.

[yvonmukluk.livejournal.com]

Maybe he reflected on events and considered he might have overreacted? I mean, it was the trauma of losing their children that caused Wanda to cause Disassembled and all the other stuff, and he felt that pain as well. I mean, there was that scene in JLA/Avengers where the two of the are looking out into space (having seen a vision of how their universe would be once it was fixed) and Vision simply says, 'I know, my love.'

That was a very sweet scene.

[mrstatham]

You make it sound like Bendis would pay any attention to JLA/Avengers at all. I love the guy's writing on particular books, but he is a champ for ignoring things.

[amaniwolf]

This again feels like the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Vision is written one way, not wanting to know Wanda from anything, and now...oh i want to speak to her. Someone please make up their mind, or give us a page of Vision thinking about Wanda and reconsidering his decision, anything would be nice. These constant shifts are really annoying. And if Vision was going to let Magneto go, why now just drop his density to nothing so he's a ghost and can't be affected? He's not an idiot.

[mastermahan]

I stopped paying attention to anything Bendis years ago, when I came to the conclusion that I was never going to care for the haphazard way he shoves characters into preassigned story roles. I still check back in on occasion, though. Sometimes, it's something like Miles Morales Ultimate Spider-Man, which I ''want'' to like, but just feels so thin. Other times, it's something like this. Characters acting like assholes for no good reason is not the same as conflict.

[salinea]

This again feels like the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Vision is written one way, not wanting to know Wanda from anything, and now...oh i want to speak to her.
and yet both were written by Bendis!!

[salinea]

yeaaah, sometimes his writing really makes me facepalm. Which is a shame because I think he's pretty good when he tries.

[mastermahan]

Magneto went way beyond "superhero misunderstanding" there. Asking someone why they don't kill themselves is dickish. Monologuing about you can control someone's body and force them to do horrible things without feeling any guilt is out-and-out supervillain.

[amaniwolf]

Which makes this doubly pathetic.

[salinea]

yeah, I don't even know what Bendis is thinking at this point. Perhaps he writes on autopilot.

[mastermahan]

I think Bendis's career is an example of the Peter Principle in action. He's pretty good at solo books, but he can't handle the character juggling required for team books or big events.

[salinea]

Probably, yes.

[crabby_lioness]

Who did the exact same thing with Carol Danvers.

[crabby_lioness]

Some people you shouldn't make kick the mule.

Magneto and DC's Thessaly top the list.

[crabby_lioness]

I'm really getting annoyed at how Mags' adult male kin feel free to blame him for all their own shortcomings. I get that he's desperate enough for some kind of a relationship that he lets them, but it still stinks.

[salinea]

Really? *siiiighs* for shame, Bendis, for shame...