UGH!

Jun. 21st, 2012 05:53 pm
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So Beyond's current story line is about a man named Jake. Jake worked his way up from the slums y doing bad things for good money. Jake is important ecause a few years ago he worked for Wayne-Powers, under Mr. Fixx. He was part of the team that killed Warren McGuiness. He ends up being tormented by it.





So after Terry dons the cowl, things go sour for Old Jake. He loses his job, his will to work and his fancy high up apartment. He ends up back in his old slum, haunted by the McGuinesses' eyes and his Great Grand-Uncle's ghost. He then walks into his crappy apartment to find...



So after freaking out on the burglars, Jake decides to do something. He pulls out his old gear and gets ready to do something.

And here's where it loses me...


Dagnabit he was almost an original character. Nope, instead he's Joe Chill's realative. I really wish we could see more of Terry's rouges gallery.

Date: 2012-06-21 11:25 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Though it is a little tired to make him a Chill, I like the basic idea of a Joe Chill analogue seeking redemption by becoming a hero.

Date: 2012-06-21 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
The idea has potential, but yeah, my first gut reaction when I first saw that was, "...Really?"

Date: 2012-06-22 12:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I have to admit... I was going to maybe forgive what happened to Mari. And honestly this seems REALLY cool. But then... he'sa Chill? Though like Icon said, I like the idea that a chill is looking for forgiveness as a hero.

Date: 2012-06-22 08:03 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Perry the Platypus (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
I like the idea more as a Chill analogue than an actual Chill...

Date: 2012-06-22 12:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] philippos42
Hey, that's Norm Breyfogle art, isn't it? Original artist for the Ventriloquist, and Anarky's real secret identity!

Date: 2012-06-22 02:11 am (UTC)
silicone_soul: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silicone_soul
I thought the same thing, and turns out it is. The art is less detailed than his old work, but the dynamism is immediately recognizable.

Date: 2012-06-22 12:53 am (UTC)
thanekos: Kouhei " Principal Garren " Hayami, the Libra Zodiarts, is bugged. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
At least he ain't Reapin'.

Date: 2012-06-22 02:21 am (UTC)
silverzeo: Chaud thinking "No way!" (WTF?)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
!!!

Does Waller know about this?

Date: 2012-06-22 02:37 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Really? The whole point of Batman Beyond was that Terry was not Bruce. This entire series (and the JLU episode Epilouge for that matter) just do not seem to understand that little fact.

Date: 2012-06-22 07:37 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Yep.

Date: 2012-06-22 08:04 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Perry the Platypus (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
How did Epilogue not understand that? They went out of their way to say that, blood-related or not, Terry is his own man. They even closed on that note with Terry deciding to propose, something Bruce never did...

Date: 2012-06-23 02:32 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
It wasn't as far off base as this but making Terry out to be Bruce's son made his choice to be Batman that much less truly spectacular since it's what he was conceived to do.

Date: 2012-06-23 02:39 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Perry the Platypus (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Perhaps, but they did abandon that plan. On a bigger level, I think it calls into question the idea of things such as destiny and the like, myself.

Date: 2012-06-22 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tarradiddle12
This. I was actually just listening to the commentary on some early episodes, where, you know, the creators talked about how much they didn't want all the villains to just be "Two-Face Beyond" "Son of Clayface", etc. because it should be new stories. Sure, the past is important, but the pre-reboot version of this comic lost me when they just couldn't stop dwelling on what was going on in then-current DC.

Date: 2012-06-22 03:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cypherfdp
Funny how things work out, Andrea was supposed to be Not-Joe Chill, but that deal fell through, and it turns out that there actually was a Chill who wound up becoming Not-Joe Chill anyway.

Date: 2012-06-22 05:07 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
The extreme sad faces on that first page are making me laugh. Even Fixx is sad!face.

Date: 2012-06-22 10:25 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I felt awful for doing so, but the panel of Terry with his mom and brother at the funeral had me in stitches because of the look on Terry's face. It's almost like an emoticon.
Edited Date: 2012-06-22 10:25 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-22 08:02 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
It's funny, considering DCAU Chill would kind of have died before this guy was born, though that it's probably canon any more.

I'll post the story if I can.

Date: 2012-06-22 08:05 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Perry the Platypus (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
I remember that one. Last issue, wasn't it?

Date: 2012-06-22 08:06 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Might have been, I can't remember for sure.

Date: 2012-06-22 08:39 am (UTC)
equinox216: (Default)
From: [personal profile] equinox216
Batman: "MY PARENTS ARE DEAD!" becomes superhero
Joe Chill: "I KILLED HIS PARENT!" becomes superhero

Sure, why not.

Date: 2012-06-23 02:34 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Would make for an incredibly awkward team up down the line.

Date: 2012-06-22 10:40 am (UTC)
blackruzsa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
Related or not, I like this origin! It's pretty far off from usual "redemption" hero origins, and putting "lackeys" (or let's say villain support) up front is usually pretty interesting.

Date: 2012-06-22 10:53 am (UTC)
damar148: (Default)
From: [personal profile] damar148
I always thought the Wayne-Powers mooks were too fancy dressed for mook work.

Date: 2012-06-22 11:50 am (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
It looked pretty good, until the reveal. That sort of ruined it for me. The whole 'he's the Batman Beyond Joe Chill...get it? HUH? GET IT?!?' is a tad too on-the-nose for me. I think it's a great idea...until you insist on making it about Bruce Wayne's Batman, instead of making Terry his own man.

Date: 2012-06-23 12:34 am (UTC)
rdfox: Joker asking Tim Drake, "'Sup?" from Paul Dini's "Slay Ride" (Default)
From: [personal profile] rdfox
...how, exactly, is anyone surprised by this? Seriously, when I read #7, and he talked about how his great grand-uncle "killed two people... OK, probably a lot more than that, but there were two that really stuck in his head," and I instantly realized he was a Chill.

I mean, you wouldn't mention that with a Gotham character unless you WERE referring to the Waynes.

Date: 2012-07-04 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] orson_zedd
I was gonna be a smart ass, but no, you're right, I shouldn't have been surprised that they ended up doing something stupid that really took away from the rest of the story. They were SO CLOSE. They could have done away with the granduncle bullshit and the chill thing, and he'd have been fine, he'd have been better, I'd have definitely looked forward to the next issue after the misery that was Issue 4. Now they're gonna have this spectre of Joe Chill hanging over the whole story so they can tell the same damn stories they've told for years, instead of trying something ballsy and new.

This is one of the many problems with the current state of the American Comic Book industry of course, and despite my expectations, I'm always so disappointed when I'm proven right.

J. Chill

Date: 2012-06-27 02:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] capt_satellite
I haven't stayed up on BEYOND, but this guy's only one freeze-ray gun away from one hell of a Mr. Freeze/Captain Cold analogue to do a face turn as a hero....like J2 was for Juggernaut in "Avengers Next" years ago, and about a million other things we can all remember.

I'm a lousy prognosticator, but I like it.

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