Bye , bye Earth 3...

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

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[sailorlibra.insanejournal.com]

Definitely the best world evah,

I was under the impression that they hadn't be destroyed, however. Since this world appeared in JLA before IC happened. Was that just a fluke or did Earth-3 secretly survive?

[(Anonymous)]

Mark Waid brought back the multiverse with The Kingdom in the late-ish 90s. Since the multiverse was back Grant Morrison wrote JLA: Earth 2 (Since Earth 2 didn't exist, Earth 3 moved up one space, but it recently had to move back, alas what a short lived promotion.)

Then I don't know what happened because the multiverse appeared as late as Kurt Busiek's JLA run, but still DC announced Infinite Crisis and everybody went nuts because it was going to bring the multiverse back... and the whole thing is all kinds of retarded, but that's how DC works. DC is like God, but instead of mysterious, it's retarded.

But in short, that's why Earth 3 appeared before IC.

I used to post as Cissie King in the old SD, but I haven't created an account here yet.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Yeah "earth 2" was an awfull title for that GM Book. The KB brought them back as the crime synducate from Qwad,they now were changed by what happened in JLA/ Avengers so now they could move between worlds ect. As for post Final Crisis , who the hell knws anymore. Insane journal isn't bad I did a little exploring earlier today,so I may use this for other things as well.

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

> As for post Final Crisis , who the hell knws anymore.

People capable of reading.

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

Okay, that was too bitchy, but THAT part of FC is the less complicated of them all.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Also I thought what Waid brought back was "hypertime" not the Multiverse. (?)

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

Same thing in practice.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

That makes my brain all hurty...

[buttler.insanejournal.com]

It's worse than that, I'm afraid. The Crime Syndicate of Amerika's Antimatter Earth is not the same as the Crime Society's Earth 3. Both versions have showed up since Infinite Crisis, although never in the same story. So now we have two alternate universe evil JLAs to worry about.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

So, your saying there is the potential for Superwoman on Superwoman action ?

[cmdr_zoom.insanejournal.com]

Fans of the Silver Age waited and wanted and hoped for the multiverse to come back, even though the whole point of the original Crisis was to get rid of it (and all that confusing history). Instead, all that DC managed to accomplish was making its single new continuity even MORE confusing, in part because no one seemed to be able to agree what the new story was going to be. (Part of the old multiverse's job was to allow for such variance between artistic vision.)

There were a number of attempts to bring it back, partly inspired by rosy nostalgia but also by the awareness that as a matter of practicality, you can't have "all stories are true" in a setting with so many creators and so much scope... but like the various incarnations of Supergirl, people kept tripping over each other trying to do it "right" according to their ideas. Thus you got stuff like Hypertime, 52, etc. By now it's gone through so many reinterpretations that it's hard to say just what the structure of the DCU cosmos is supposed to be. It's the same problem bumped up to the next level of meta - everyone wants to tell THE DEFINITIVE STORY of how all stories are possible.

Moral of the story? "Too many cooks spoil the broth" and/or "be careful what you wish for," I'd say.

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

Thing that DC found is that the (mainstream) comics they put out afterward alienated everyone but their oldest fans, who LIKED all that confusing history.

Mainstream fans like that stuff. Otherwise Marvel would no longer exist, as if you recall they've never thrown out said history, and theirs is a lot more twisty and vast, whereas what was confusing about DC is that often they ignored it. They were trying to be more like Marvel in adhering to only one.

[liliaeth.insanejournal.com]

The silly part is that now, Marvel is trying to be like DC, by ignoring vast bits of its continuity while pretending it all makes sense.

[foxhack.insanejournal.com]

"Otherwise Marvel would no longer exist, as if you recall they've never thrown out said history, and theirs is a lot more twisty and vast, whereas what was confusing about DC is that often they ignored it."

... Did you ever look at Brand New Day? :\

[ebailey140.insanejournal.com]

I don't see where it's confusing. Nobody promised to undo CoIE, and reset everything like it was.

Hypertime was just a device to allow for re-setting continuity at any point. What happened in Infinite Crisis/52/Countdown was something different, recreating the Multiverse, but not the same one we had, before.

All this is is allowing any story with these characters in any medium and Age to have happened, somewhere. The main DCU is Earth-0. Whatever else has been done that doesn't fit in main DCU continuity happened on one of these other Earths. The Golden Age comics that don't fit current continuity happened on Earth-2. Whatever in the Batman animated series from the '90s and it's spin-offs has it's own Earth. There's an Earth for The Dark Knight Returns and it's tie-ins (It has a number, but I prefer the name someone at the old Scans Daily gave it: The Goddamn Earth). Towards the end of Countdown, one of the Earths became Kamandi's, which is where the New Gods wound up at the end of Final Crisis.

So, presumably, Earth-1 would be the Silver/Bronze Age Earth. Don't know what shape it would be in, though, after Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow.

What we likely won't get are the annual crossovers, or entire series set on one of these other worlds. Too bad, because I liked the DCAU. :)

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Towards the end of Countdown, one of the Earths became Kamandi's, which is where the New Gods wound up at the end of Final Crisis.


There is a body of work to suggest that Kirby wanted to link Kamandi to the fourth world, "The great didaster" having been caused by a rouge Boomtube accident.

Maybe we shall hear more.

[kentsplace.insanejournal.com]

for me this made Ultraman cool. The whole fight until the end thing still works for me.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Yeah you get the idea that somewhere in the final moments ,Ultraman realize he should have been a hero.

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

Is it just me that noticed Earth-3 heroes have no taste in costumes? Between Alex Luthor's gold leotard and his dad's...I don't know, especially-retarded-Rams-fan get-up, I mean...

You can always tell it's 80s Wolfman by the amount of times people say "Lord."

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

SO true...

[mwisse.insanejournal.com]

Such a great bit in a series that was bursting at the seams with great moments. Wolfman and Perez managed to make Ultraman as noble as any of the other Supermans while still keeping him a villain.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

As an opening scene it really set the tone for the rest of the book. How do you face the end ? What regrets surface,what do you learn when the end comes. If you were 13 it was high art.

[buttler.insanejournal.com]

Oh, indeed. I'd always loved the Crime Syndicate and was sorry to see them go, but that was one badass finish for Earth-3.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

I wonder what the Earth 3 Aquaman would have been like ?

[buttler.insanejournal.com]

The Anti-Matter Crime Syndicate's Earth has one called Barracuda. I don't think I ever saw one on either the pre-Crisis or post-52 Earth 3, tho.