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ComicBookResources has the preview as the Marvel Illuminati gather once more to address the Phoenix issue.

And we have one moment of levity.



The Illuminati gather, and they hope that they can talk to one of their own about the Phoenix.


"So can a burrito."


Oh GOD there's a visual I don't need.

Date: 2012-08-02 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Where have Reed and the rest of the FF been during AVX anyway?

Ben's been beating up mutants left and right.

Date: 2012-08-02 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
HOW AVX SHOULD HAVE STARTED (AND PROBABLY ENDED):

CAP: The Phoenix is coming, we need to take Hope away from here.

CYCLOPS: Piss off, Cap, this is a mutant issue, we're going to handle this.

CAP: Grr...

CYCLOPS: Grr...

BOTH: GRAA--

*both of their heads are wrapped in an invisible bubble, losing breath*

SUE: Hey! You two--I'm not going to let you boys have air until you put away the rulers, put your trousers back on, and start talking like grown-ups, 'kay?

Date: 2012-08-02 05:55 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
YES!

Date: 2012-08-02 06:59 pm (UTC)
bjornwilde: (FF-Hands)
From: [personal profile] bjornwilde
Now that's my kind of cross over!

Date: 2012-08-02 11:41 pm (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Hm, now that I think about it, Scott and Co could probably claim that the Richards kids are mutants and try to "liberate" them to raise amongst their own kind at this point.

...Come on, it's hardly out of character considering the other things they've done and said.

Date: 2012-08-02 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
...You know, it was surprising to see Reed pop up in the preview, but now that you mention it, yeah, we haven't seen ANYONE outside of the Thing, have we? I guess with Reed you could say, "well, he's keeping things more neutral and studying the Phoenix on the down-low. You could say that Johnny, Sue, and the FF were helping people on the first half of the conflict while the two teams were skipping their duties in favor of war, and when the Phoenix Five came into play they all decided to hide until Reed figured out what was going on.

Now that I think about it--considering that Sue is in the original Marvel Now promo, I wonder if she'll play a bigger part in these next few months of the event...

Date: 2012-08-02 05:56 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (not amused)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
what else bothers me about that is that Franklin (and is Val?) IS a mutant. this effects him as much as anyone else... also Franklin is GOD LEVEL no one feels threatened by him...

there is SO MUCH HERE that bothers me. this is but a SMALL portion of this~

Date: 2012-08-02 09:54 pm (UTC)
amazing: franklin richards kicking the air like a superhero ([ff] supah~)
From: [personal profile] amazing
I don't think the world at large knows Franklin got his powers back. Well, after FF #604 maybe, but is that set before or after AvX? LOL TIMELINES.

(Val's not a mutant, though. Just a weirdo super genius.)

Date: 2012-08-03 07:18 pm (UTC)
sir_mikael: (Barrowman)
From: [personal profile] sir_mikael
I think Val... might grow up to have invisible force fields though? I mean I think Franklin shoved the teenage Val with Doom armor and force fields (Marvel Girl I think she called herself) into Sue's belly a few years back basically. Teenage Val was a result of Franklin saving the baby/soul from miscarriage ages ago and put her in some alternate Earth were a Sue and a Reed-pretending-to-be-Doom raised her. Then again who knows if souls have mutant powers (lets not go into the Scarlet Witch's kids). I don't know. Comics are confusing sometimes.

Date: 2012-08-03 09:37 pm (UTC)
amazing: little hiro nakamura smiling (Default)
From: [personal profile] amazing
Different biological parents - teen Val was Sue + Doom. Still, it's possible Val might develop powers in future - Reed examined her at birth and determined she had none, but lol Reed.

Date: 2012-08-02 11:42 pm (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
As I said elsewhere, Scott would probably try to claim the Richards kids to "raise with their own kind" if he got the chance at this point.

Date: 2012-08-03 03:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I think Sue's rep as a protective mother (and the refeences she could gain from everyone from Doctor Doom down about what a dumb idea it would be to threaten her kids with anything she didn't agree with whilst in the same time zone as her) would give even uber-driven Scott pause before interfering.

Date: 2012-08-03 02:57 am (UTC)
roguezombie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] roguezombie
Why does AvX effect him? He's a mutant, but he's never been strongly associated with the X-Men. And he's like ten so there is no way in hell Sue would let him into the fight. And no one is worried about his god-like powers because they don't work like phoenix force. He's not at risk for losing control.

Date: 2012-08-02 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I think moments like these is when Bendis' style helps the Avengers. You can use little bursts of interaction like this in-between the standard superhero stuff to make these larger than life characters have more of a humanity to them. I think if Bendis could do more of that superhero action better in-between it, I think he wouldn't have NEAR as much hate poured on him as he does.

Date: 2012-08-02 05:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
I don't know. My biggest beef with Bendis is not his style so much as his utter lack of respect for any characterization or history that doesn't fit into the mold of the story he wants to tell. Sentry and Marvel Boy being prime examples.

Date: 2012-08-02 07:45 pm (UTC)
eeemkaaayy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eeemkaaayy
So true. I'm all for superheros having normal moments, but after reading some of his runs, especially Moon Knight and his Avengers in general, have killed my opinion of him.

Date: 2012-08-02 10:32 pm (UTC)
salinea: Balalaika is rendered speechless ("...")
From: [personal profile] salinea
Hear, hear.

That's why I'm so afraid of him on X-Men.

Date: 2012-08-02 05:58 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (Bitch Please)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
... i just legit vomited in my mouth.... fuck this....

Date: 2012-08-02 07:13 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
Any reason why you dislike it? I have my reasons. Just wanna cross-reference :)

Date: 2012-08-02 11:16 pm (UTC)
amaresu: Sapphire and Steel from the opening (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaresu
If we had any doubt about how the Avengers feel...

Date: 2012-08-02 07:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glprime
I can see Tony earning honorary doctorates off his research and development, but his ego wouldn't allow him to sit for a doctoral review.

Date: 2012-08-03 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arysteia
It might have when he was at MIT at 15. Hideous at times though I imagine he was.

Date: 2012-08-03 03:29 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I think he would, but only so he could prove to them each, in turn, how much smarter he was than they were.

Gaining a doctorate: $140,000
Cost of cap and gown - $500
Leaving Five Doctoral Examiners nervous, gibbering wrecks, doubting their contribution to science over the last 20 years: Priceless

Date: 2012-08-02 07:47 pm (UTC)
eeemkaaayy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eeemkaaayy
God, this is bad. And if I'm saying it, it's pretty bad.

Date: 2012-08-02 07:55 pm (UTC)
his_spiffynesss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] his_spiffynesss
You know, a safe deposit box in Portland does not sound like the safest place to store a nigh-infinite object of power.

Date: 2012-08-02 09:56 pm (UTC)
amazing: thor and captain america staring at the sky ([avengers] shit going down)
From: [personal profile] amazing
I know, right? Bobby Singer would find that in like a day.

Date: 2012-08-02 10:29 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Clearly Tony has clearly read the Evil Overlord list

#5 on the list is - "The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the object which is my one weakness."

Date: 2012-08-03 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
He's a successful businessman. Of COURSE he's read the Evil Overlord List.

Date: 2012-08-03 04:09 pm (UTC)
blunderbuss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blunderbuss
Actually, I thought that was the SMARTEST place to put it. Reasonably secure but still a place that no one will EVER think to look. Frankly I'd like to see more people put dangerous/rare/special objects in safe deposit boxes.

Date: 2012-08-03 04:56 pm (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Would any super villain or evil cosmic force think to look in a mundane bank for an infinity gem? No they would not.

Date: 2012-08-03 04:59 pm (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Of course it has the related issue that it could be picked up by accident in a more regular bank robbery.

Date: 2012-08-04 11:50 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
With the exceptions of episodes of Lost or CSI, most bank robbers don't look in the safety deposit boxes.

Date: 2012-08-03 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
It's probably not a good idea to use the Infinity Gems, if only because they've got a history of not actually accomplishing what their users wanted in the long run. Heck, the only reason they exist is because a god committed suicide when he failed to create life. They've been tainted with failure from the very beginning.

Date: 2012-08-03 02:06 am (UTC)
lucky_gamble: (S.S. Jones)
From: [personal profile] lucky_gamble
Let the "Caucasian male elder council" meeting begin...
Edited Date: 2012-08-03 02:07 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-08-03 11:42 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Seriously, they could at least have invited Black Panther into the group, even though he'd probably try to hijack the group in some way, while lecturing the others for their own faults while ignoring his own issues.

Date: 2012-08-03 04:09 pm (UTC)
roguezombie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] roguezombie
I think they did invited him, but he thought it was a terrible idea.

Date: 2012-08-03 04:58 pm (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
When they first formed after the Skrull-Kree war (via retcon) he was invited but he told them it was a bad idea and would bite them all in the ass later.

Date: 2012-08-03 10:25 pm (UTC)
lucky_gamble: (Eye roll)
From: [personal profile] lucky_gamble
One destroyed city later (World War Hulk ) and yet here they are

Date: 2012-08-04 11:45 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
More than just shooting the Hulk into space. Attacking the Skrulls, gathering the Infinity Gems, and telling Noh-Varr to use Mar-Vell as a role model. All those things bit them in the ass, just a long time later.

And not just their asses got bit. Attacking the Skrulls led to Secret Invasion. Gathering the Infinity Gems (somehow) led to the Hood finding them. And Noh-Varr may simply be ill-suited to be a "good guy."

Date: 2012-08-03 03:09 am (UTC)
roguezombie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] roguezombie
I hope non-phoenix powered Namor shows up.

Date: 2012-08-03 03:25 am (UTC)
liara_shadowsong: (Default)
From: [personal profile] liara_shadowsong
Well, I liked the "Doctor Stark" bit, and the fact that Tony has clearly read the Evil Overlord List (but Wells Fargo? Really?). The actual storyline, though? Do not want.

Date: 2012-08-03 06:29 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
1. The Illuminati didn’t seem like a bad thing… AT FIRST. When they first appeared in “The Sentry” storyline in New Avengers #7, it looked to be a simple information exchange meeting. Nothing about secretly deciding the fate of the world.
2. The Illuminati one-shot and the miniseries showed what a bad, BAD idea the group is. Mainly because every time they do something, it goes horribly wrong, just not right away. In no particular order: shooting the Hulk into space, gathering the Infinity Gems, attacking the Skrulls, and telling Noh-Varr to use Mar-Vell as a role model. And the Beyonder story was more of a “%#$* Jim Shooter and everything he stands for” story.
3. Captain America wouldn’t like a group like this because Steve Rogers is from the streets. For reals, dawg. .

Date: 2012-08-05 03:27 am (UTC)
maridee42: (listen)
From: [personal profile] maridee42
holy crap.

Tony's been reading the Evil Overlord List.

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