Date: 2012-08-15 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I do find some of the exploration and tinkering with some of the mystical forces in the 616--the Iron Fist, Scarlet Witch's hexes--kinda interesting. Not sure if that's enough to sustain interest for this event.

Also, this was DEFINITELY the moment where Scott stopped being the rational one of the group and went completely coo-coo for cocoa puffs.

Date: 2012-08-15 07:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Considering he hasn't killed anyone I say this still puts him as the second best Phoenix host after Rachel Summers.

Mod Note

Date: 2012-08-15 05:47 pm (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
I'm afraid that spread pages that over two pages, like the last page you posted, count for 2 pages. So you need to cut one page from your post to only post 4 pages, please.

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Date: 2012-08-15 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
So... Scott get cornfielded. Event over, right?

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Date: 2012-08-15 06:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Awww, I liked that Cyclops was still trying to be a good guy. But now he's gone full villain.
I still don't like Hope. She's being written much better now, but I can't get past that stupid lecture she gave to Prof X and the fact that she was mindcontrolling her teammates. And her costume. You're not in a post-apocalyptic future anymore, you don't need to wear a poncho and handwraps.
Anyway, she's getting better, so I'm assuming that here she's.... embracing the Phoenix or something, thus taking it away from Cyclops, momentarily it appears, and then punching him in the throat. Cool, I feel like her powers are kind of loosely defined.
Also, yay, only two issues (followed by the by now obligatory "aftermath" miniseries) and then we're done! Still wondering how Prof X is going to become involved in this though, if he is indeed the one Marvel is going to kill.

Date: 2012-08-15 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
He has been a little bit--he plays a big role in the latest issue of New Avengers, and a particularly stunning revelation in the latest issue of Avengers.

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Date: 2012-08-15 06:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brooms
Still wondering how Prof X is going to become involved in this though

i'm assuming they'll have him be a dick one last time by using the mind gem or siccing legion on scott and/or emma.

Date: 2012-08-15 06:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brooms
magneto telepathically communicating with his boyfriend was the only thing i took from this issue.

oh, and this -

"our girl Hope just kicked Cyclops's ass."

i'm glad tony likes her so much. the avengers can totally have her. and here's hoping she never pops up in an x-book ever again.

Date: 2012-08-15 07:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] theflames
Our girl hope? wow Tony, now that she's useful you love the brat.

:/

I feel she simply doesn't deserve to have any friends in the x-men, their supposed saviour villianised all of them with the help of Humans and the one mutant who caused this mess in the first place (the Scarlet Witch).

I just want her to be likeable and smart. :(

Date: 2012-08-15 07:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lucky_gamble
This hot mess is still going strong I see. So what exactly can the Scarlet Witch do? They switch from probability to chaos magc to reality warping to...ah who gives a fuck.

Date: 2012-08-15 07:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] theflames
The only side I care for is the X-men, since the Avenger's just seem flimsy in terms of moral code, effectiveness, ability and intelligence.

It's a shame whats happened here, to these characters, but, I look at this the same way I look at the Ultimate Universe's 'Ultimatum Wave' -- terrible in execution, BUT, created consequences that made for a very interesting world after.

Hopefully that happens here.

Date: 2012-08-15 07:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stillanerd
And thus what little ambiguity that remained about whether or not the X-Men (or at least Cyclops and Emma Frost) are the villains of this event has just been quashed. Now my fellow X-Men fans know EXACTLY how my fellow Iron Man fans felt during Civil War. Problem is, how are the X-Men going to recover from this, considering how it took a film starring Robert Downey Jr. to restore people's faith in Iron Man?

Date: 2012-08-15 08:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] salinea
Robert Downey Jr is ALL OF THE X-MEN. I look forward to seeing him in the punk outfit with a mohawk.

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Date: 2012-08-15 08:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bewareofgeek
FALCON PHOENIX PUNNNCH!!!!

Date: 2012-08-15 08:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
okay interesting she's finally combinging powers (though, the iron fist is not a mutant power... how is she using it?)

but still... not impressed, if anything i am depressed... there seems to be little hope for Emma or Scott or anyone at this point.... :(

Date: 2012-08-15 09:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brooms
there seems to be little hope for Emma or Scott or anyone at this point.... :(

i think they'll try to save scott. xavier dying will probably snap him out of the phoenix craze or w/e.

things don't look good for emma at all, tho.

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Date: 2012-08-15 10:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rdfox
Still not buying this.

Still feel the only way this event can be salvaged is if Squirrel Girl swoops in at the end of issue 11, then spends all of issue 12 kicking EVERYONE'S ass and then sitting them down and lecturing them all about what idiots they've been until she sends them all to their rooms to think about what they've done and not come out again until she says they can.

Christ on a cracker...

Date: 2012-08-16 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] wtfomfg2
Switch Squirrel Girl with Rachel Summers, and this is the exact same thing I've been hoping for.

You go girl

Date: 2012-08-15 11:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
Boosh!!

Date: 2012-08-16 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I haven't been reading this, but I do have some thoughts based on what I have seen.

Cyclops wanted Hope to have the Phoenix. Presumably the Phoenix wanted Hope too. Now the Avengers and Hope want her to have the Phoenix.

Cyke didn't want the Phoenix but once he got it every single action he could have done after that point, including doing nothing would have intimidated others into attacking him

Overall it seems that whoever has the most power is the villain these days

Date: 2012-08-16 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
Franklin Richards seems to handle being occasionally nigh omnipotent pretty well. And he's a little kid. While he's sometimes been portrayed as a potential threat, I can't recall any storyline where he was actually the antagonist.

And in Watchmen, Doctor Manhattan was the most powerful character in the series but he wasn't the villain either.

The whole "power corrupts" idea is pretty silly anyway, since there are plenty of people in real life who have power and wealth but are still decent. Meanwhile, some of the worst jerks the world has to offer are jerks because they have so little real power and take out their frustration on the few people with even less power.

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Date: 2012-08-16 03:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drmcninja
How is it that in a series that's entire point seems to be making the X-Men complete tools, I still find Hope to be the least likable character?

Date: 2012-08-17 08:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] suzene
Ah, but Hope has had a whole series in which to be a terrible person and the X-Men have just had this one event . They may have the power of fire and life incarnate yadda yadda, but it's still going to take a while for them to catch up to Generation Hope. ;)

Date: 2012-08-16 09:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
I thought only Emma was allowed to fist Scott.

Date: 2012-08-16 04:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blunderbuss
Maaan, if it's one good thing about this comic it's seeing assholes like Scott and the other P5 get OWNED.

Date: 2012-08-16 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
Hope: You've got no right to force your will on people!!"

Scott: Seriously? You're going to use that line of reasoning, standing by the group you're with? The head of the SHRA, the man you brought a war to America to oppose it, instead of doing something like moving to another country, and the woman who has re-written reality several times. Plus you know you're under a year old actually. You exist because of people forcing their wills. Your father, ny sone, he was seven. But when he was a baby and dying a group of time travelers forced their will on this time and saved him. That group of time travelers, my daughter who will never be born in this reality created them. He time travelled to change history.

Date: 2012-08-17 08:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] suzene
Plus that little business of Hope consistently usurping the will of the Lights over in Gen Hope. She really has no leg to stand on there.

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