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Yeah, so Scott is going to kill Xavier again.



“I got a little teary-eyed when we were scoping out the moment in the room with the series’ writers and editors,” says Marvel Editor in Chief Axel Alonso.

“He needed to be the casualty in this story. There’s no more oh-sh-- moment that you can bring than having a son killing his father.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/50-years-original-marvel-comics-x-man-killed-prized-student-article-1.1156859#ixzz26GqiV2g9

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2012/09/breaking_marvel_pretends_character_death_is_news.php#more

I wonder how people will spin this to Scott being the hero still, like some people have covered his and the rest of the Phoenix Five's actions thus far.

Date: 2012-09-12 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jaysonbyron
Someone needs to do a count--who's died (or "died", I suppose) more, Jean Grey or Professor Xavier?

Date: 2012-09-12 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jaysonbyron
I'm also assuming X gets offed here for removing the Pheonix Thong, which is absent from that art! Thanks for taking one for the team, Chuck.

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Date: 2012-09-12 03:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] curlyjo1
At this point, no character death is shocking.
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Date: 2012-09-12 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jaysonbyron
"We'll milk so much money out of them," I croaked, my voice stuck in my throat. "So much money."

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Date: 2012-09-12 04:04 pm (UTC)
lencannon: shy guy (Default)
From: [personal profile] lencannon
This was actually really sad.

What a frustrating storyline though. The Avengers could have prevented all of this by trusting Scott and now it's all out of control.

I've been on Scott's side during Schism, during the initial Phoenix kerfuffle, and even after the Phoenix Five. I'm really put out by Marvel making him the villain. I hope Captain America is ashamed of his part in this.

Date: 2012-09-12 05:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
So true. Scott, while I stand that the guy needs some therapy right now (but he's been in the need of therapy since Search for Cyclops and the start of Morrison's run, but that's not the point), all of his actions, good and bad, all have the a fairly understandable goal behind them. He's trying to hold the X-Men, and what's left of the mutants, together, and he's constantly having to do so while dealing with things like civil wars, alien invasions, corrupt government conspiracies, fascist future robot fundamentalists infected with alien bio weapons lead by a human looking robot trying to give them a serious case of deadness, and with everyone constantly calling him out on every decision he makes.
While he may end up having some similarities to Magneto, its only Magneto's more human traits he resembles, and even there, as I've pointed out before, there's a big difference between the two: If Cyclops doesn't do this, mutants will die. There's literally only a few handfuls of mutants left. Magneto, however, tried his schemes when there was millions of mutants and during a time when mutant haters weren't advanced enough to do it as efficiently as now. Its my biggest problem with Schism, mutans need to stick together right now if they want to stay alive, not break into two and refuse to let the young ones who need to be trained to survive actually do anything. That, and the fact that they've been training kids as young as twelve to be X-Men and X-Women for as long as they've existed and Wolverine only just now realizes that he doesn't like it, right when the younger ones need this basic training.

Date: 2012-09-12 04:04 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Ack!)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
Wait, wait a sec. What's my reaction to this?

Thbt.

Date: 2012-09-12 04:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Colour me both unsurprised and unimpressed, given that Xavier has had bugger all profile in the X-verse for years (gained his powers, lost his powers, gained his powers, lost his powers, and can he walk this week?) aside from the occasional snark in "Wolverine and the X-Men", this is a supreme non-event for a character who is, more or less, redundant.
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Date: 2012-09-12 04:16 pm (UTC)
salinea: Balalaika is rendered speechless ("...")
From: [personal profile] salinea
Nothing in there was surprising or shocking. Nothing. I'm so weary of this crap.

Date: 2012-09-12 04:32 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
Why do they think a son killing his father is a good thing to end this situation?

The only ones hurt by this are Scott, the rest of the Pheonix Five who NEVER asked for this. And the X-men, and even then will probably see some tasteless cheering about Scott going off the deep end from them.

The Avengers just made it messy and Hope made it even more difficult. You had one job Hope.

Date: 2012-09-12 05:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
So true. So damn true.

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Date: 2012-09-12 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tessiebee
No, not Xavier.
Magneto, avenge him!

Date: 2012-09-12 04:44 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
Wait Scott killed Xavier before?

Date: 2012-09-12 05:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
No one is spinning anything. This is the first villainous action undertaken by Cyke post-Morrison. And he immediately knows he has lost it.


Marvel completely wrecked him for no reason at all. If the X-gene doesn't at least come back post AvX then the last blah,blah years of X-men since Messiah Complex have been a huge waste of time....or maybe I am just lashing out bitter/angry over what is happening here.


So mad right now.

Date: 2012-09-12 05:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
Uh
no.
I'll just go sit in the corner with the comics unaffected by this event.

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Date: 2012-09-12 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
Poor Scott. There's really no coming back from this.

Date: 2012-09-12 05:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beoweasel
“He needed to be the casualty in this story. There’s no more oh-sh-- moment that you can bring than having a son killing his father.”

Except you've used character death to highlight 'how serious' an 'oh-sh-- moment' is so many times, that it's lost all meaning.

Seriously, I didn't go, "OH GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE SCOTT DID THAT!" What REALLY crossed my mind was, "Oh, they killed Xavier -again- did they? Wonder how many months pass until he comes back."

Date: 2012-09-12 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
Oh yeah, Xavier's going to be fine. Eventually.

Scott's the one with the added baggage.

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Date: 2012-09-12 05:40 pm (UTC)
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See, this is my exact problem with the X-Books. I actually like Cyclops, I always found him quite cool, I feel he has one of the more interesting backstories in comparison to the other Original five and most of the big name X-Men, and I always felt he gets treated quite poorly in order to boost Wolverine or ets blamed for things that aren't really his fault. But I absolutely hate the way he's been written in the past few years, and here is it getting over the top. Since Grant Morrison's run its been apparent to me that Scott is in fact suffering a psychological break (and the fact that Emma's idea of psychotherapy was 'have sex with your doctor, because that isn't a huge breach of practice and/or rape at all!' most certainly hasn't helped), and combined with the current status quo, a lot of his actions were understandable. But now, phoenix possession made him kill Xavier. I understand shock value. I get they want to make this a big thing. But, No. NO. Nonononononononono! Do they not remember Civil War? Do they not remember the shit they had to work with afterwards? Do they not remember that they literally had to have Tony Stark reboot his brain before he was really redeemable?

Honestly, we've got Marvel repeating themselves with AvX and DC repeating themselves by benching Steph and Cass, and repeating Marvel with Supes and Lois' breakup. Can they not recognize that these were bad ideas?

Date: 2012-09-12 06:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brooms
and I always felt he gets treated quite poorly

what. weren't whedon's and fraction's runs all about him? gillen has been writing him really well, too. current marvel editorial/writers staff loves him, i feel like they've been pushing scott for ages, they're only throwing him under a bus right now because they need to undermine the x-men's leadership so the avengers merger can work.

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Date: 2012-09-12 07:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
Another Marvel quarter, another death. *Yawn.* -- rapidly becoming an ex-Marvel fangirl

Date: 2012-09-12 08:09 pm (UTC)
lissa_quon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lissa_quon
Wait...Xavier was ALIVE? I hadn't heard or seen anything about him recently, I assumed he was back in the Dead category.

So...he's a alive and going to die...again.

Kay. Welp I'm not really affected by this.

Date: 2012-09-12 08:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] salinea
LOL

yeah, sad.

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Date: 2012-09-12 08:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Man, I didn't want Xavier to die, I really like him. Even if they keep writing him as a manipulative and amoral dick. Plus, does this really have a lot of impact even? I mean, Xavier hasn't actually been involved in this event from the start, he only showed up a few issues ago and certainly hasn't been that major a player. I hate this.
That said, I would really like to see Scott come out this horrified by his actions and determined to atone for his actions (as cliche as that is) by actually carrying on Xavier's Dream properly, as opposed to continuing with his own weird, isolationist streak.

Date: 2012-09-12 11:05 pm (UTC)
neurotic_kitten: (Default)
From: [personal profile] neurotic_kitten
Oh gee, they killed Xavier, the bastards, cause this has never happened before, and he'll never comeback.

By the way, that was sarcasm.

Date: 2012-09-13 12:38 am (UTC)
an_idol_mind: (Default)
From: [personal profile] an_idol_mind
I actually don't see it as that hard to build Scott back up as a hero. Right now he's clearly insane. Purge him of the Phoenix Force and he can rebuild himself as a hero. Same as Hal Jordan and the giant fear bug.

Date: 2012-09-13 06:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] suzene
Ugh. Bendis. I guess we should be grateful he even bothered to kill Xavier onscreen.

Date: 2012-09-13 03:56 pm (UTC)
angelophile: (Hancock Meh)
From: [personal profile] angelophile
Isn't this basically how Messiah Complex ended too? Xavier "killed" by one of the X-men?

Date: 2012-09-13 04:44 pm (UTC)
salinea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] salinea
Yeah, he was shot by Bishop, but wasn't completely dead then.

Rather stupid to keep him alive then, and then barely use him for years, before killing him now.

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Date: 2012-09-16 03:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] liara_shadowsong
...Any bets on how long Xavier's gonna stay dead? My money is on between one and three story arcs.

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