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Also it seems like Vyndtyx was responsible for Jonathan and Martha Kent death. While Clark was enjoying his senior prom with Lana Lang

Date: 2012-12-05 07:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrosa
Hm, it seems interesting.

Date: 2012-12-05 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
"Also it seems like Vyndtyx was responsible for Jonathan and Martha Kent death."

At least Martha's--we've seen how Jonathan dies in Action #6.

But yeah, this was an INSANELY good issue. Just when I thought that maybe Morrison was going to leave with a ho-hum ending, he drops the goddamn gauntlet. Superman vs. an interdimensional imp and his Anti-Superman Army, fighting him at every single point in his life. Shit's gonna be good! :D

Date: 2012-12-05 07:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
He killed Vartox! Noooo! D:

Date: 2012-12-05 08:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] terrykun
Vartox is a warrior and immortal! He surely was just thrown into space!

Date: 2012-12-06 12:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pallas_athena
Vartox is far too sexually attractive to die!

Date: 2012-12-06 12:56 am (UTC)
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Date: 2012-12-06 02:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
No! The power of his chest hair and banana-hammock protects him!

Date: 2012-12-06 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Well, only 230 of 333 worlds "died instantly." When Supes and Jor-El busted the Multispear, that may have saved the remaining worlds, or at least given them a chance to fight off the Multitude themselves.

So Vartox may live! And he's riding on Super-Turtle. Or possibly vice versa.

Date: 2012-12-05 08:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pyrrhocorax
"You were Myx's favourite trick, and the King's."

*cough cough choke* PARDON ME?

Date: 2012-12-05 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Ah, I see what you're implying...XD

What's ironic is that we get some similar word play in Deadpool this week.

Date: 2012-12-06 04:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] junipepper
So glad that wasn't just me... :-)

Date: 2012-12-05 09:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ardat_lili
So...if he wins, does that mean maybe we get the elder Kents back? Because that would be awesome.

Date: 2012-12-05 10:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] philippos42
Why is someone writing about Mxyzptlk in an Alan Moore style?

Oh, Morrison. OK, a Grant Morrison style. It sort of fits now.

Still, weird.

Date: 2012-12-06 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
How is this a Moore style?

Date: 2012-12-06 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Kind of the opposite, actually. Moore is all "Do you think a 5D sorcerer would actually look like a silly little man with a derby hat?" and Morrison is all "Fuck yes they would."

Date: 2012-12-06 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
True--though Mxy does look pretty different now, looks less human, kinda like if the Impossible Man found himself in Charlie Chapman's clothes.

Date: 2012-12-06 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Oh, definitely. Both authors like to play up the inhuman, mind-blowingly complex nature of 5D beings. But for Morrison their childlike, storybook behavior is an essential part of that nature, while for Moore, it's just a mask that Mxy puts on to mess with people occasionally.

I think Morrison's 5Ders make very convincing deities--much more than his New Gods. Final Crisis and Seven Soldiers were fun, but it's hard to make the New Gods seem like anything more than alien superdudes in the end (even if some of them are extremely super.) Kirby creations are too intrinsically sci-fi for that. But the 5D beings are the sort of critters that you might actually find in a real-world religion or myth cycle.

Date: 2012-12-06 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
See, I'm kind of the opposite. I find especially Morrison's New Gods to be far more convincing as truly epic dieties than what we saw in this issue, which basically looked like suped-up elves from a fantasy novel. But hey, you say to-MAY-to, I say to-MAH-to...

Date: 2012-12-07 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
I agree that the New Gods are more epic...I guess I just think of them as legendary heroes rather than mythic beings or deities you might have a reason to interact with. They're too punchable, and (except for Darkseid and maybe the Black Racer) they have too little interest in the mortal world as a whole. Whereas 5D beings are almost unbeatable physically but can be influenced through ritual, their motivations are surprisingly mundane and human even though they act on a cosmic scale, and several of them like to come down and mess with mortals all over the universe. That sounds more like a traditional god or djinn or fairy to me.

But yeah, that's just my feeling on it, not The Truth!

Incidentally, I really like that Vyndktvx attacked the wrong person because of a misleading shadow. A higher-dimensional being, fooled by a 2-dimensional image--a good reminder of his vulnerability.
Edited Date: 2012-12-07 02:08 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-12-05 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Note the "Chromo-Conflict 2" throwaway there. Looks like Morrison wants to keep the War of Colors in continuity, which implies that the Thunderbolt genie is still from the 5th Dimension.
Edited Date: 2012-12-05 10:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-12-06 03:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] theflames
War of colours? I tried to look it up, i cant find anything, what was it about?

Date: 2012-12-06 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
It happened in Crisis Times Five, a 1999 arc of Morrison's JLA. The Thunderbolt genie was established as a living "color" from the 5th dimension, and was attacked by a rival--since they were both virtually omnipotent, the battle threatened the universe. That arc established Qwsp as a 5D being, marked the first Post-Crisis appearance of Gsptlsnz, and introduced Jakeem Thunder.

Date: 2012-12-06 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
...You know, when you put it like that, I can totally get why some people reply, "What the fuck is this guy smoking?" XD

Date: 2012-12-06 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
It was actually one of his more straightforward stories--I've seen reviewers complaining about it being "by the numbers." All those wacky, cartoony yet insanely powerful characters were already part of the DCU; Morrison simplified things quite nicely by sticking them all in the 5th Dimension, IMO.

The main point of the arc was to showcase the Justice Society, which hadn't gotten much love from DC Editorial up to that point.


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