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I initially had reservations about this issue given how poorly executed this series has been under Levitz, but this one actually genuinely surprised me with solid characterisation and a compelling storyline.

First, that bounty on Helena's head from the Huntress mini catches up with her in this issue. And things don't look well for her:

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This then triggers memories of her life growing up on Earth-2:

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Wish Levitz had done this story arc a lot sooner, but better late than never, I guess.

Date: 2013-01-09 09:58 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (dead waynes shock)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
an actual compelling and well told story?

is this Really Levitz?

(that said, funny it's only focusing on Helena, as his solo Huntress series was REALLY good....) maybe he shoul stop writing World's finest and Just write Huntress....

Date: 2013-01-09 10:38 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Not Daddy Bruce showed up? does he know who she is?!??!?!

Date: 2013-01-09 11:26 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
no i havent! i've been at work all day!

Date: 2013-01-09 11:38 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
oh you're not.

and you know very well spoilers are my bread and butter :D

Date: 2013-01-09 10:50 pm (UTC)
silverhammerman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Cool, I've been wondering when they were finally going to have the character knock it off with the skulking around and actually interact with the Earth-1 versions of there loved ones. I hope there are "feels" and I hope someone posts scans.
Also, with Mister T gone, who will pity the fools of Earth-1?

Date: 2013-01-10 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
The last few issues of this book has been Helena interacting with Damian, who would be sort of her stepbrother, and the two sorta bonded enough that he promised that he wouldn't spill the beans on them.

Date: 2013-01-09 10:45 pm (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Joker)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
Anyone noticed the Joker doll at the foot of Helena's bed there?

Date: 2013-01-09 11:41 pm (UTC)
superfangirl1: (Default)
From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
What better way to teach her not to fear clowns?

I didn't notice the first time. lol

Date: 2013-01-10 01:02 am (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
Is it bad that my first thought upon reading "Digging deeper into Helena" was "Awwwww, yeeaaaah"?

Date: 2013-01-10 07:36 pm (UTC)
alan_smithee: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alan_smithee
"It was only a ten-foot drop. Get up".

Spoken like any abusive parent "It was only a little slap. Get up" - I take it within the full context of the story we are given a reason they are abusive towards their daughter or is it simply that they are assholes?

Date: 2013-01-11 08:01 am (UTC)
alan_smithee: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alan_smithee
Ah! so she is a child conscript!

Date: 2013-01-11 06:34 pm (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
I can't imagine any version of Bruce Wayne forcing a child, even his own, to fight crime with him.
She must have been voluntering since day 0.

Date: 2013-01-12 09:23 am (UTC)
alan_smithee: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alan_smithee
The defence of many an abuser!

"He/She asked for it and liked it really!"



(I'm particularly joking with my responses here but I've always been interested in how - because it's an accepted part of the genre - behaviour that would be considered abusive and wrong in the real world is fine with certain characters but not others).

Re: Mod Note

Date: 2013-01-12 10:41 pm (UTC)
alan_smithee: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alan_smithee
I'll rephrase it then as a perfectly straight question - surely this is abuse then? A child can't consent to be trained as a child solider, so why do we (as a conceit of the genre) generally accept such behaviour with certain characters?

The argument could be made "well there was a war in the future!" but that requires the perfect knowledge of the writer or reader or the other argument could be made that 'Batman has enemies' but that's just another version of "the world's hard and I'm making them tough to survive' it that abusive parent make in their defence when caught or to justify their behaviour to themselves?

The get-out is then "well it's all fiction!" but if it's all fiction, why get worked up about any abuse?

Re: Mod Note

Date: 2013-01-13 09:21 am (UTC)
alan_smithee: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alan_smithee
Forget the specific situation for a minute - why do we consider it accept for *any* child side-kick to be trained to go out and fight serial killers and other menaces to society rather than considering it abusive?

Date: 2013-03-14 10:23 am (UTC)
lovely_evil_wolf: made by me (Default)
From: [personal profile] lovely_evil_wolf
Realizing I am late to this, I always took it not as the real Bruce speaking to her, but how someone imagines someone speaking to them when they need assistance. Given the size of Batman here relative to both Helena and the background, he'd be huge Dr Manhattan size.

I'm sure there's a name for this trope, but it escapes me right now.

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