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That got some of y'all's' attention, I'd imagine. One page with the long-awaited return of a beloved character!



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OH HALE NO.



OK guys, let's discuss in loving, intricate detail the thousand and one ways this is WRONG. On your mark - get set - GO!

Date: 2013-01-30 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Uh...I...don't...hate this look?

I mean, if/when Raven is out of her father's spell, I wouldn't mind a retweak, at least giving her eyes to emote with, but that isn't an awful look for her, IMO.

Date: 2013-01-30 09:47 pm (UTC)
maijson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] maijson
It's different, and a little out there, but frankly I don't see the issue. In fact, I kind of really dig the mask.

Besides, Raven's design aesthetic in the comics has always been a little bland.

Date: 2013-01-30 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
That is true--her look was sleek, but not exactly distinctive in their own terms.

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Date: 2013-01-30 09:51 pm (UTC)
his_spiffynesss: (facepalm)
From: [personal profile] his_spiffynesss
Well, I don't think it's a Jim Lee design, I don't see one of those collars on it.

Date: 2013-01-30 10:04 pm (UTC)
coldfury: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coldfury
She has a collared cape, it might be under there.

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Date: 2013-01-30 10:02 pm (UTC)
zabilac: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zabilac
Guess she really lives up to her name "Raven" now, huh? XD

Date: 2013-01-30 10:14 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
She looks like the offspring of a wild one night stand between Batman and Dove to be honest... The lack of a visible face is more than a little weird.

I see we're back to Trigon being a demonic supernatural entity, rather than an extradimensional warlord who just happened to look like a demon, and whose powers were never mystical. And does he have six eyes instead of the usual four?

Date: 2013-01-30 10:46 pm (UTC)
coldfury: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coldfury
I see we're back to Trigon being a demonic supernatural entity, rather than an extradimensional warlord who just happened to look like a demon, and whose powers were never mystical. And does he have six eyes instead of the usual four?

... ah, comics.

That's probably for the best. Heck, even pre-Nu52 they were pretty much ignoring that with Trigon's children and all that.

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Date: 2013-01-30 10:22 pm (UTC)
silverhammerman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Ahahahahahaha. It's hideous.
Moreover it's an utterly bizarre departure from what's by this point a fairly recognizable look. I figure once a character's been in a certain costume in a cartoon or movie, like Raven has, that's their costume for good, barring some minor tweaks. This barely even really resembles her old costume, which I think was a perfectly fine look.
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Date: 2013-01-30 10:49 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
You know, I was wondering to myself today "Say, where is Raven in the new 52? She shown up yet."

And now she has. Funny that.

Date: 2013-01-30 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Like the editor's note said, she also appeared in Phantom Stranger #1, but without a costume. The Stranger basically found her running from Trigon and was forced to screw her over by turning her back over to him.

Date: 2013-01-30 10:58 pm (UTC)
onceaskrull: (Default)
From: [personal profile] onceaskrull
If it just didn't come with a push-up bra...

Date: 2013-01-30 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Yeah, the layered thing there kinda reminds me a bit of the "classic" Scarlet Witch design.

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Date: 2013-01-30 11:05 pm (UTC)
ablackraptor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
As her face and skin are different shades, I'll assume she's wearing a full body grey suit and the blue is just some extra detail. In which case, its not THAT bad.

But, if that's a colouring error, and only the blue is her costume, then damn, they've got to stop with cheesecake- costume redesigns. Its just impractical.

Date: 2013-01-30 11:44 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
No, I think it's definitely a grey body-stocking too.

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Date: 2013-01-31 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
the current DC staff is strangely literal at times aren't they?

Date: 2013-01-31 12:16 am (UTC)
zechs80: (Mayuri)
From: [personal profile] zechs80
Remember when Lobdell said there wouldn't be any Trigon? Tell that to his editor.

Date: 2013-01-31 12:33 am (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
Works fine for a bad guy design, I imagine her feet and mask will normalise when she becomes a good guy.

It's pretty nice, a decent departure. Oh so dramatic though.

Any redesign I have for Raven would be so much more toned down... then again, I like my simple.

Date: 2013-01-31 12:55 am (UTC)
sun_man: this is Dick Grayson (Default)
From: [personal profile] sun_man
kill this with fire

Date: 2013-01-31 01:03 am (UTC)
nezchan: It's actually supposed to be Peter Parker (GUD ARTS)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
Whatever else you might say about the costume, those shoes are HILARIOUS!! The rest is pretty much "meh" at best, but I'll be laughin' at that footwear for a while.

While I'm at it, what's with the awful boobs? Does this artist know what breasts actually look like?

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Date: 2013-01-31 01:49 am (UTC)
lucky_gamble: (Eye roll)
From: [personal profile] lucky_gamble
Ughhhhhhh that is ugly

Date: 2013-01-31 02:54 am (UTC)
flash_fan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] flash_fan
I like the mask and cape, don't really like the rest that much.

Date: 2013-01-31 04:56 am (UTC)
superfangirl1: (Default)
From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
Ummm. I want to like it but just can't at the moment.

Date: 2013-01-31 05:06 am (UTC)
lieut_kettch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Well, at least she has a wing-cape to match Tim's. At this rate, they could form their own Science Ninja Team.

Hmm. . .

Date: 2013-02-01 11:06 pm (UTC)
marco: (Default)
From: [personal profile] marco
That would explain something. Maybe they are trying to make a Gatchaman team. It could never be as awesome, but I do wonder who the other members would be.

Date: 2013-01-31 12:16 pm (UTC)
mortimerwclankitybritches: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mortimerwclankitybritches
Anyone else think she kinda looks like Femto/Griffith from Berserk now?

Date: 2013-01-31 12:51 pm (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
I didn't until you mentioned it, now I can't NOT see it.

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Date: 2013-01-31 12:56 pm (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
I just...man.

Listen, I get it. You wanna give superheroines sexy costumes. Heck, at least here, Trigon is wearing a revealing outfit himeslf (though not so form fitting, but whatevs). But what gets me here is that the redesign targets a very recognizable character (and a fairly popular one to potential readers who've seen the animated versions) and make her very unrecognizable, by comparison.

To me, that just seems counter-productive. The TV shows should be pulling readers IN to comics, not confusing them with versions that are so radically different, IMHO. But since TT is currently one of the best selling comics of the new 52, I guess it doesn't matter.

Date: 2013-02-01 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I honestly think DCu has decided every character with a bird name has to be connected. She's meant to be like a version of the Hawk/Dove/Kestrel/Swan characters created by Trigon now

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Date: 2013-01-31 04:39 pm (UTC)
gl_lg: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gl_lg
What is this?!

WHAT IS THIS?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omLve_vezbA

My reaction is the guy yelling! Nuff said!

Date: 2013-01-31 04:43 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (pumpkin muffin (bats))
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
Yikes! What a dreadful costume! That mask looks like she's the Woman In The Iron Mask.

Date: 2013-01-31 04:52 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Robin oh THIS is going to end well)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
"The Femme in the Feathered Fan" perhaps?

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