Possible spoiler on Red Hood and the Outlaws cover?

[cyberghostface]

 


Here's the full gatefold cover under the cut:




Thoughts? Think it indicates anything to happen at the end of "Death of the Family"?

Comments

[icon_uk]

You beat me to it on posting this...

"ICK!" is my first reaction...

Didn't the Joker put something inside Jason's helmet before putting it back on him? I suspect it might have been some sort of epoxy resin or the like.

[sir_razorback]

No, I think it's not that complicated. There were all those covers of the differnet Bat-characters with a classic Joker-ized look. I think this is the same thing, but more along the lines of what Joker looks like now. I wouldn't be surprised to see similar treatment on the other covers. (Which is going to make Batgirl look especially creepy I think.)

[janegray]

...Shit.

[katya]

I keep seeing stuff about this on Tumblr but I'm just... reserving judgement until I get the actual books. I've really been loving RHatO and its characterizations, and it makes me sad when I see fans on Tumblr saying they're going to stop reading the book if anything happens to Jason's face. I like his face too, but that's not the only reason I'm reading the book!

[cyberghostface]

To be honest even if it does happen it'll be retconned eventually.

I know before the reboot occurred it was implied that after the Gathering of Five something disfigured Norman Osborn and it turned out to be nothing.

Or Reed Richards getting half of his face melted by Doom. That lasted less than a year IIRC.

[icon_uk]

And it's not like Jason doesn't know where a Lazarus Pit is.

[thosefew]

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[katya]

Yeah, hasn't even Deadpool spent a while "oops not disfigured after all"? I don't get why a character getting injured is reason to drop a book on its own. Like, I love Barbara Gordon as Oracle and I love her as Batgirl too. My affection for her as a character is in no way based on how she looks or her physical abilities. Nightwing is eyecandy, but I wouldn't stop reading that title if Joker chopped his ass off.

[icon_uk]

Nightwing is eyecandy, but I wouldn't stop reading that title if Joker chopped his ass off.

I think if the story had reached the point where that was seen as being a viable plot point, even I'd have given up on it some time previously, and the last time I gave up on the title was the Devin Grayson era...

[katya]

I'd wince, and I'd probably spend a lot of time reading with my face buried in my hands, but I'd probably still read it.

[chrisdv]

Nightwing is eyecandy, but I wouldn't stop reading that title if Joker chopped his ass off.

I would... But because I think Nightwing's ass getting chopped off would be a really stupid storyline.

[katya]

Stupid, but also kind of hilarious in a juvenile way. "Can Dick Grayson still be Nightwing without his greatest ASSet? this story will have you out of your seat!"

[kurenai_tenka]

It's not that people don't love him for anything other than his pretty face, it's that people love his character and can't stand to see DC do this to him.

I'm not intending to quit reading either (I was going to until I heard they were changing authors, so now that's happened certainly not giving up now), but I'll be incredibly unhappy about it if this proves to be more than an artistic cover.

[chrisdv]

Why is Harvey Dent cosplaying as Red Hood?

That's my story & I'm sticking to it until we find out DC have decided that since they can't kill Jason, they'll just mutilate him instead.

[kuronotenshi]

I've seen this around. I'm in the camp thinking that it's not a thing that might happen to Jason. The cuts are too surgical around the edge, and the rictus around the musculature on the 'mouth' makes me think it's Joker pretending to be Jason to mislead the Outlaws and Teen Titans.

It'd make sense he couldn't fit his face with all those stupid belts onto it under a Red Hood Helmet.

Anyway. I'm going to hope it's just Joker pretending to be Jason. Marvel and DC have both given me so many sad moments of late, I think I'm firmly in the denial stage.

[skemono]

makes me think it's Joker pretending to be Jason to mislead the Outlaws and Teen Titans.

If this ends with Kory beating ten kinds of hell out of the Joker, I will buy all the comics.

[kuronotenshi]

If it does, I will be right there buying -all- the comics too.

[kurenai_tenka]

I suppose body/voice wise it might be a bit difficult, but frankly I'd rather stay in denial with you, and I do quite like that theory. Sure they could flange something.

[icon_uk]

This is a post "Death of the Family" issue though, so the Joker shouldn't be in it in person

[kurenai_tenka]

Icon stop ruining my denial with your perfectly sound logic. ;)

[kuronotenshi]

True, but the other option is it's an artistic cover referencing the Joker, as it seems the solicits for the issues of RH after Death still reference non-stop what it is exactly the Joker 'did' to Jason.

Pleaseee let it be an artistic cover implying something Joker-y, not an actual de-face-thingy.

The denial is strong with me.

[sleepymax]

Anyone notice the difference between Starfire's costumes?

[icon_uk]

I do indeed, though I confess to not being any more confident that that design would be able to hold her boobs in place like that.

[akodo_rokku]

All I noticed is that this is like, Kory's 3rd or 4th costume in the last *year*. Pick a design, guys!

[chrisdv]

She's competing with Nightwing over sleep can through the most costumes before the next big event alters the universe again.

[viridian5]

A lot of comic book artists don't seem to have any idea of how breasts really work.

[violetclm.livejournal.com]

The coloring process seems to have covered a fair bit more of Starfire's skin. Nice.

[kurenai_tenka]

Oh good, this was posted here. I've been checking back all day, haha!

I'm really really hoping that this is nothing but a cover. Otherwise, it's a little embarrassing just how upset I am about this.

[thanekos]

Jason "Totenkopf" Todd, everybody.

[cypherfdp]

Starfire and Roy seem to both be reacting with "OH MY GOD WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAACE"

[cypherfdp]

No wait, it's Deadpool!

[shadowpsykie]

I heard rumor of this from a friend. I still hope its a misslead. Because "joker effed up Jason (again) now hes out and out villain" is not a story I want to read.

[silverhammerman]

Well that's unfortunate. I think it would be stupid to disfigure Jason is such a way that it ties so heavily into a specific storyline though, since I feel like Joker's gonna have his face back eventually anyway, and for Jason to not have a face after that would mean the tie to the Joker is gone and it's just a matter of him not having a face because grittiness. Now if say the Joker gassed him or something and gave Jason a rictus grin I'd be a bit more onboard, and it wouldn't be so goofily gruesome.
Art's pretty nice though, and Jason's mask looks much better when artists don't add the goofy little nose and mouth bits.

[blunderbuss]

Uh, right. And if this DOES happen, what exactly is going to stop Jason from going into 'kill Joker at all costs' mode? Because out of all the Batfamily, he's the one least likely to be satisfied with the Joker 'just' going to jail.

[akodo_rokku]

Nothing really, other than the constant deus ex machina that keeps the Joker alive. Hell he shot "Joker" in the chest and head several times in this week's Teen Titans, but it turned out to be a dummy full of poison, because see above.

[kenn_el]

I'm hoping that in the final version Jason's hair is red, and, given they can't see his face, Kory and Roy are horrified by the color.

[espanolbot]

It's funny because when Jason was redesigned with red hair, there were a ton of people complaining that the hair change made Jason "ugly" even though his face was designed exactly the same.

People are weird.

[benuben]

Speaking as heterosexual male, I do find some women to be more/less physically atractive, depending on their hair color.

[whitesycamore]

It's funny because when Jason was redesigned with red hair, there were a ton of people complaining that the hair change made Jason "ugly" even though his face was designed exactly the same.

His face design was most decidedly not the same, and the receding hairline/acne mentioned in the dialogue was definitely not added to make him sound like a fresh-faced beauty.

Come on, you know you'd shit a ton of bricks if they did that to Cass Cain.

[benuben]

Since nobody commented on that yet, are we all in agreement, that the art is fucking gorgeous? It's just so beautifully horrible.

[naebler]

Looking at this, it makes me remember "Death in the Family" and the fact Jason was in fact...dead. Before going in the Laz pit. A part of me wonders if something is going wrong and he is starting to rot like a corpse now.

[stillanerd]

Yeah, I'm of the opinion that the cover is not meant to show that Jason Todd has become disfigured. Rather, I think it really means that the Joker, after Death of the Family, has become the Red Hood again by pretending to be Jason Todd.