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Part of the reason for X-Men's popularity is that, in between the typical characters in colorful costumes fighting one another, is that there was also a lot of soap opera going between the characters, some of which have become legendary.  Most are familiar with the triangle between Cyclops, Jean Grey, and Wolverine; the turbulent romance between Storm and Forge; the on-again, off-again relationship between Colossus and Kitty Pryde; and even Rogue turmoil over which bad boy she wants more: Gambit or Magneto? 

But one of the lesser known, but still familiar with long-time X-Men fans, is the relationship with Allison Blaire, aka Dazzler, the one-time pop singer who can create energy beams out of sound, and Longshot, the artificially-created ex-slave from the Mojoverse who could manipulate probability with acrobatic skills that rival Spider-Man. 

Anyway, when Longshot escaped to our world and joined the X-Men, he and Dazzler became lovers.  Eventually the two of them were both teleported to Mojoworld where they lived together, eventually overthrowing the despotic Mojo with the help of the X-Men, as seen in X-Men #10-11, vol. 2.  And in the aftermath of the battle, we get this revelation:



And what were the possible name that Longshot suggested for his and Dazzler's unborn child? 



Yep, this Shatterstar...



...the same guy from Rob Liefeld's run on X-Force and who is currently on the roster and in a relationship with Rictor in Peter David's X-Factor

Or so readers thought. 

Because sometime later, Dazzler ended up returning to Earth to join Excalibur during the New Excalibur relaunch in 2005.  However, not only was she separated from Longshot and, due to some unexplained memory loss, believed that he and the other freedom fighters on Mojoworld had been killed.  Furthermore, there was no mention whatsoever that she had ever been pregnant; the only hint fans ever got was an implication from X-Men #47, vol. 2 that she might have miscarried.

Well leave it to Peter David to finally clear this matter up once and for all in this weeks X-Factor #259. (Note: I will summarize this as best I can due to the "Peter David rule.")

See, during X-Factor's recent run-in with Mephisto, it was assumed that both Rictor and Shatterstar were erased from existence.  But what really happened was that both Rictor and Shatterstar were sent to the Mojoverse, where they both wound up being captured.  Rictor is then forced to fight a brainwashed Shatterstar to the death in one of Mojo's gladiatorial-like arenas that are televised throughout the Mojoverse, However, they're both rescued by a group of rebels, including Longshot, who apparently doesn't recognize Rictor or Shatterstar at all, even though he should.  Back at the rebel base camp, Rictor then meets Arzie who, in his words, is the creator of "everything and everyone."  Everyone that is, except Shatterstar. 

You see, Longshot is actually Shatterstar's clone.  Or to be more precise, a clone with some "modifications and improvements" that are enough to make Longshot not be an exact genetic duplicate.  That's right...Mephisto not only sent Rictor and Shatterstar to the Mojoverse but also back in time just long enough to allow for Shatterstar to become Longshot's "father." 

But if you thought your brain just exploded now, just wait. When Mojo and his forces storm the rebel hideout, Rictor and Shatterstar then travel forward in time to get back to the present day and to Earth.  However, they quickly realize they're not only still in the Mojoverse but also still in the past.  Because they soon stumble upon Dazzler, who also happens to be very, very pregnant. 

And she's about to give birth...to Shatterstar.  Which means that Shatterstar, just like Fry from Futurama, is his own grandpa!


And aside from being more than a little odd, I guess it's also proof that Mephisto has incredible double-standards, especially considering how he supposedly prevented a certain child from being born due to manipulating time:



Of course, who's going to tell Rob Liefeld about what Peter David has done to Shatterstar NOW considering how "well" Liefeld took what happened last time?

(Oh, and in case you're wondering, Shatterstar tells Rictor they'll alter both Dazzler and Longshot's memories to make them forget Dzaller was ever pregnant and then travel 100 years into the future to drop off the infant Shatterstar to the people who raised him.)

Mod Note

Date: 2013-07-18 01:09 am (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
Sorry, but you can't post scans from comics written by Peter David on this community, because the whole of the community has been endangered in the past because of it. Please, remove them from your post.

Re: Mod Note

Date: 2013-07-18 01:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] salinea
thank you!

It's a long, nasty story from a few years ago and basically why the comm was deleted (along with all its history) on livejournal when PAD complained about copyright infringement; and then we started it again on DW.

Date: 2013-07-18 01:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] theflames
Ha, that's Grim... it's a shame Dazzler will never know...

Date: 2013-07-18 02:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] auggie18
So, Longshot has been in a long term relationship with a woman who is, more or less, his mom.


That's some Nate Grey and Madelyne Pryor levels of creepy, that is.

Date: 2013-07-18 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Or grandmother depending on your perspective

Longshot is Shatterstar's son who is Dazzler's son.

Date: 2013-07-18 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
As if the various X-teams didn't already have enough cause to hate time travel.

Date: 2013-07-18 02:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] freezer
So does this bury the "Shatterstar is actually the figment of a disable mutant boy's imagination" thing officially, or was that done away with previous to this?

Date: 2013-07-18 05:58 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-07-18 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
...Okay, I think I got that, but that rundown just made my whole brain cry.

Date: 2013-07-18 06:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] suzene
Don't feel bad. All I got from it was a reminder that Peter David should never write stories featuring pregnant women.

Date: 2013-07-18 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk

This sorta thing has happened before?

Date: 2013-07-18 03:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Supergirl, Wolfsbane....

though i blame his supergirl being that he needed to tie up his story... and honestly didn't mind Wolfsbane's story.... but yeah....

Date: 2013-07-18 05:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] suzene
And Siryn. I'd forgotten about Supergirl, tbh.

Date: 2013-07-18 05:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
Or any kind of infants in general. As shown by the story where Genis Vell smothered his infant son in his crib to prevent him from growing up to be evil. (instead of just doing a better job raising him or not having kids in the first place)

arrrrrrgh.

Date: 2013-07-18 10:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] featheredserpent
...but that was the Shatterstar from Earth-37!

Date: 2013-07-18 03:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
okay... wait.... how is shatterstar a clone of Longshot if Dazzler gives birth to him... is there a chart or diagram i can follow?

Date: 2013-07-18 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Time travel shenanigans.

present Shatterstar is sent to distant past. He is then cloned.with a few genetic modifications.
Longshot is the clone-son of Shatterstar

Longshot goes on to join the X-men, marries Dazzler and she gets pregnant. Longshot kid with Dazzler is baby Shatterstar.

So they're both each other's fathers

present Shatterstar, on his way back to the present stops by in the not-as-distant past to help deliver Dazzler's baby (himself)

Shatterstar then travels to the distant future to drop the baby off to the people who would raise him as a gladiator-warrior so that the baby could grow up to become present Shatterstar, and eventually repeat the cycle.

Date: 2013-07-18 04:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
okay but wait....

okay... i think i get it.....

Date: 2013-07-19 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] spacebetween
So I have more reason to hate both Peter David and Shatterstar. Oh and my head hurts

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