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New previews from Wonder Woman: Rise of the Olympian - part 8

I will skip my usual complaints and just Wonder about this image.

From IGN.

I spent a summer in Acapulco when I was a kid. Playing in the sun from sunrise, swimming til sunset at the beach and at the hotel pool, and watching Godzilla and other monster movies til we passed out. Needless to say, I dreamt of huge monsters coming out of the shores and I could see them from my hotel room as they made landfall, huge monster armies deep into the dark night horizon.

This brought those fun summer memories all back.

*edit* sorry it took me so long to fix the LJ cut

Date: 2009-06-22 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khaosworks.insanejournal.com
This is where it starts to go off the rails for me, because I don't see being a legacy hero as inherently "damaging" to a character. It's not whether or not you're the first to take up the mantle - it's whether you do it well. Case in point, Jaime Reyes.

Date: 2009-06-22 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
Jaime got to choose to be a Blue Beetle. He researched Ted Kord, spent a lot of time trying to figure out what the name meant and how and even whether he wanted to live up to it, and understood from the very beginning that there were expectations around his job and name and, to some extent, what they were. There's a huge difference between *starting* a character as a legacy character and undercutting an original character by back-propagating a false legacy.

Not to mention that it obliterates about half of Perez' run, destroys the entire message of Diana Rockwell Trevor (and thereby seriously dents one of the most valuable parts of the relaunched mythos), and puts Polly's JSA allies in a position of unearned seniority over Diana ("shut up, kid, I played cards with your mother before you were even a twinkle in Athena's eye").

Date: 2009-06-22 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khaosworks.insanejournal.com
Seriously, that's all fair enough, and I've heard the arguments again and again. I know my position may not even be defensible - it's just that, in the final analysis, it honestly doesn't matter a whit to me. I still like the idea of Polly as the Golden Age Wonder Woman. Hence, I still cheerfully don't care.

Date: 2009-06-22 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
Well, I'll never be convinced not to love the Detroit League, so I suppose we've all got our fannish quirks.

Date: 2009-06-23 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drsevarius.insanejournal.com
puts Polly's JSA allies in a position of unearned seniority over Diana

Wouldn't they already be in a position of seniority, being older than her?

Date: 2009-06-23 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
It's a bit different when it's personal. Consider the significant divide in authority between "we didn't do it like that in my day" and "your mother would never do that." Or, in employment terms, the hero/legacy hero relationship is a boss/employee one, basically; Kid Flash sidekicks for the real Flash so he can become the real Flash, Natasha Irons works in her father's shop until she earns the armor, etc, which means the difference is between the JSA being older coworkers of Diana's (seniority of experience) and the JSA being coworkers of Diana's boss (seniority of hierarchy).

Now, Diana is a princess, so she's used to being in authority over her mother's friends - not much is going to impress someone who outranks Phillipus - which means it's not quite as big a deal for her on an in-universe level. But in a meta sense it still drags her down a peg (in a way which, significantly, Bruce and Clark are not).

Date: 2009-06-23 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlbarnett.insanejournal.com
well Superman at least seems to put a great deal of respect into the JSA. I really don't get the feel that making Hippolyta know the JSA puts them above Diana in the meta feel. Frankly meta-wise Diana is the top dog despite numerous female characters being stronger or otherwise more powerful that her.

Date: 2009-06-24 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
despite numerous female characters being stronger or otherwise more powerful that her

Not particularly, actually, no. Zee might be, depending on the weather, and you could probably make an argument for Babs (though I think you'd lose, especially recently), but that's about it. Lantern/kryptonian/Marvel/martian/demigod class is the highest standard weight class in DC; everybody higher up, like the Spectre or the Guardians or the Phantom Stranger, is an old white guy who mostly stays out of normal mortal affairs except through mortal agents.

Particularly now that Madame Xandau's had a power downgrade. -_-


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