[identity profile] majingojira.insanejournal.com 2009-06-24 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting. Very interesting. Is this McDuffie's final issue on JL or was that ended earlier?

Still, good way to explain the sudden influx. I like it.

[identity profile] thokstar.insanejournal.com 2009-06-24 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
This is McDuffie's final issue (and DC actually gave him an extra issue; Wein's arc was originally solicited to start this issue but got pushed back one issue.)

Next is Wein, then Robinson.

[identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com 2009-06-24 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Zee and Mari were hilarious together in this. Everything the Detroit League should have been, between the two of them. The plots have been shaky to say the least, but Robinson's got a high bar to match when it comes to character work, particularly the last few issues since the Milestone types first showed up.

[identity profile] bariman1987.insanejournal.com 2009-06-24 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Even when he's a cowboy, Batman is prepared for everything. And a single-action railgun? Talk about an anachronism.

So the original DC/Milestone crossover is semi-canon now? Cool. Think we need to have a review post about it?

[identity profile] alexlucard.insanejournal.com 2009-06-24 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Why IS Batman a gun wielding near diety killing cowboy with a chess piece on his torso?

[identity profile] foxhack.insanejournal.com 2009-06-24 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Alternate universe / imaginary / story Batman. He's a cowboy!

[identity profile] ninjapeps.insanejournal.com 2009-06-24 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Paladin is an alternate Batman created by Anansi a few issues ago. there were other alternate JLA characters, the crackiest of which was a Captain Marvel analogue but instead of a kid that turned into a super-powered adult, he was a white guy that turned into a super-powered black man.

[identity profile] jlbarnett.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
he wasn't a Captain Marvel analogue. He was the character DC considered creating as their first black superhero.

[identity profile] ninjapeps.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
ah, my mistake. I thought that since his powers came from using a magic word that he was patterned after Captain Marvel.

[identity profile] kamino_neko.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. Possibly influenced by him, since the original Black Bomber idea, as I understand it, had him changing against his will, but he's a real 70s concept (who was scrapped, and replaced with Black Lightning).

[identity profile] aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Alternate reality Bruce Wayne who didn't watch Zorro the night his parents were killed, he watched a cowboy movie. Now he fights crime as Paladin, using his absurd wealth to create awesome guns rather than bat-motif "non-lethal" weapons.

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; it could only be a Lone Ranger movie (when swapping out swashbuckling for cowboy action, you don't just plug any old western in), but I don't think they specified.

[identity profile] jlbarnett.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
didn't he also pick up the gun Joe Chill dropped and shoot him back?

[identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
That being said, if the Western had that much affect on THAT Bruce, you'd think our Bruce might have developed swords as a weapon of choice since he saw Zorro! :) (I know, I know, the movie being Zorro is a relatively recent addition, but even so, it's a nice image. Reminds me of the issue of DCAU Batman where he takes down the Cavalier, and as he swings away Batman thinks "YOU don't get to play Zorro in this town, that's MY job")

[identity profile] jlbarnett.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
well as I said, I'm pretty sure he got the chance to kill his parents murderer immediately and did so.

[identity profile] kenn_el.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
Prepared for 'everything'? I think Damian shows that that's not true.

[identity profile] bariman1987.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Batman used to keep Bat-condoms next to the Batarangs, but after a couple of times reaching into the wrong belt compartment when fighting the Joker, he removed them so as not to give his villains the wrong idea.

[identity profile] lieut_kettch.insanejournal.com 2009-06-24 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I like how the "frayed strands of continuity" which will take "months, if not years" to correct effectively provides any writer using Milestone characters an out if their portrayals are inconsistent with their past history.

[identity profile] volksjager.insanejournal.com 2009-06-24 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Just put this book out of it's misery. It can on the shelf next to the Detroit years...

[identity profile] jarodrussell.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
The Rift? So this is Torchwood's fault?

[identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Ten minutes of watching that show should make it very clear to anyone that everything is Torchwood's fault.

[identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Damn right!

[identity profile] pyrotwilight.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
And so DC lies to us again. Didn't they say the whole Worlds Collide Crossover was not going to be canon and referenced again. Sigh.

On the other hand I love the Milestoners and Paladin.

[identity profile] xammax.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
So its offical:

Batman + Gun = God Killer.

[identity profile] aaron_bourque.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
The real reason he never used guns before?

[identity profile] zegim.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It all makes sense now D:

[identity profile] bariman1987.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
When Diana was blinded, she did a big sparring match against the League to prove to them that she wasn't less valuable. Batman's part was shooting at her with a gun, which she deflected with her bracers. So Batman is two out of three with god-killing.

[identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, actually, he got Clark to do his dirty work with that one. I don't think it works if he does it by proxy.

[identity profile] bariman1987.insanejournal.com 2009-06-26 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, really? I could have sworn it was Batman doing the shooting*, but I've misremembered stuff like that before, so I bow to your superior knowledge. I suppose having Clark do it makes sense, if he thought Diana wouldn't deflect it Clark could grab it. Faster than a speeding bullet and all that.

*I guess the image of Batman with a gun is so odd that I keep inserting it into other places.

[identity profile] runespoor7.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Well, DC's succeeded in their Pavlovian training with me in that seeing Bruce or Batman with a gun spells "WRONG" to the inside of my bones.

"He shot him. This is so wrong." </ freak out>

Y'know what other Bat uses guns and might be interesting for Alternate Bruce to meet?

[identity profile] ashtoreth.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
The one who had his origin before World War II so thought guns went with the Dark Avenger bit and shot Nazis on covers for propaganda?

[identity profile] buttler.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
So the Milestone heroes are in the DCU . . . very, very tentatively.

[identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well Static is currently in the Teen Titans, so they've started to appear.

[identity profile] buttler.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 09:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know all that, obviously. I've been following their appearances.

What I'm saying is that the in-story reason for them to be there at all, as outlined here by McDuffie, is very fragile indeed. Basically if this one guy's concentration gets broken, they're outta there.

Since McDuffie retains the rights to those characters, it seems like he's giving himself an easy out, continuity-wise, to yank 'em whenever he's had enough of whatever nonsense is going on behind the scenes.

[identity profile] kamino_neko.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Since McDuffie retains the rights to those characters, it seems like he's giving himself an easy out, continuity-wise, to yank 'em whenever he's had enough of whatever nonsense is going on behind the scenes.

He said as much explicitly back when the Milestone characters being added to the DCU was first announced.

[identity profile] ian_karkull.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
As (sadly) deficient as this was, it got me hooked on the Milestone characters. If DC doesn't want McDuffie to write a decent JLA book, they should just give him a sort of Milestone anthology and let him go nuts.

[identity profile] zegim.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be for the best :)

[identity profile] mysteryfan.insanejournal.com 2009-06-25 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god! Re: Batman at the bottom of the first page. I love his expression!