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Three pages from this week's Justice League: Cry For Justice #1.

In an early interview James Robinson did for this book, he said: "I defy you to tell me what Ray Palmer’s personality is? There has never been a personality. So that’s one of things I am going to do with him as well, is give him a personality." (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?id=16532&page=article)

Well, what do people think? So far, is he succeeding?







Seriously? Heroes who torture? Is this DC's new thing?
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Date: 2009-07-02 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hybrid2.insanejournal.com
woah...the words,they hurt!

Date: 2009-07-02 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] statham1986.insanejournal.com
Umm.. WTF? Has Ray been smoking the same shit that drove Jean batshitcrazy? Because there's no way in Hell he'd threaten someone with the same fate his nutty girl used to 'scare' and kill one of his best friends.

Date: 2009-07-02 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenanthai.insanejournal.com
Seriously. I was just thinking the exact same thing.

Why does "personality" have to mean "grimdark"? What the hell, yo?

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Date: 2009-07-02 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darklorelei.insanejournal.com
Someone needs a hug from Platelet.

Date: 2009-07-02 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proteus_lives.insanejournal.com
Noble Platelet!

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Date: 2009-07-02 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icon_uk.insanejournal.com
I liked the Grant Morrison Atom I have to say. College Professor first, superhero second... and a really COOL college professor too!

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Date: 2009-07-02 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriousfic.insanejournal.com
And that personality is... AAAAAAAANGST!!!

Date: 2009-07-02 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kusonaga.insanejournal.com
Robinson sounds terribly self-righteous in that interview.

I, also, don't like this Atom.

Ray Palmer does have a personality. It's not this.

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"Yeah...JUSTICE!"

Date: 2009-07-02 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
And the personality is Jack Bauer!

Robinson is a writer long since totally "pitch"-perfect, if you know what I mean. So yes, "personality" does mean "grimdark."

You know what? Ray did have a personality. Jan Strnad and Frank Miller in particular got it. (That was one of the few delights of DK2) It's kind of like a more down to earth Reed Richards, one who likes to teach more than cloister, and get laid more than once in a while. (whereas with Reed I imagine sex as something he just doesn't mind, that's all, but not a personal priority)But has-been Robinson killed it, with prep work by Brad Meltzer.

But I've had no respect for that tool ever since he made LOEG into another Howard the Duck: I always have to say, "I don't mean that bad movie" or "the comic's very different from the movie" and sound like a tool. God damn you, James Robinson and your derivative hackery.

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I'm speechless.

Date: 2009-07-02 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ulf_boehnke.insanejournal.com
I'm speechless.

Is this some kind of Bendis parody?

Re: I'm speechless.

Date: 2009-07-02 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
Impossible. Bendis' work generates its own internal parody as balloons bunch up and up.

I read this in his interview.

“This is the way I equate it: I said I write Ollie and Hal as Geoff and I talking but the way I see it, it’s also like ‘Guns of Navarone.’ Hal Jordan, in a way, is Gregory Peck. And I see Oliver Queen, in some ways, like David Niven,” Robinson explained.

No, you're not David Niven and you're not Hal. Jaysis, what crud.

And wait, he's actually CALLED "Shazam" now?

Re: I'm speechless.

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Re: I'm speechless.

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Date: 2009-07-02 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leikomgwtfbbq.insanejournal.com
I think Pete here speaks for us all. *motions to icon* Or, at the very least, he speaks for me.

BLEAH to GRIMDARK! Atom, and a lot of GRIMDARK! transformations in general.

Date: 2009-07-02 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killermoth1.insanejournal.com
Killer Moth and The Atom in a room together should be awesome, but instead I get a GRIM!DARK version of my favourite villain and favourite darkhorse hero. Boo I say.

Date: 2009-07-02 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thormonger.insanejournal.com
Yeah, someone's been watching too much 24. It works for Jack Bauer, not for Ray Palmer.

Date: 2009-07-02 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hyperactivator.insanejournal.com
Boooo. Booo. Bad writer. You promise personality and give us generic grimdark. Boo.

Date: 2009-07-03 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
Hasn't that kind of always been Robinson's job? From back in the day when if you couldn't get Moore you got Gaiman, if you couldn't get Gaiman you got Morrison, and if then Milligan was busy you got Robinson.

Much as I like THE GOLDEN AGE, it's also an example of the zenith of exactly the era that type of GRIMDARK thing. It's like the point where it snaps, and reconstruction begins with ASTRO CITY.

Date: 2009-07-02 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ian_karkull.insanejournal.com
Oh look, it's the Grimdark League featuring Bland Lantern, Dr. Has-Been, Supertorso and Captain Nobody Cares (his magic word is "whatever").
It's kind of hard to see all this irrelevant F-List characters strugling (and failing) to be interesting by pretending to be OMG sooo edgy and not to laugh.


ok, yes, Congorilla is pretty awesome, but if this is any indication of how the serious goes, i dread the moment he bites off the face of some Z-List villain.

Date: 2009-07-02 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanetris.insanejournal.com
I like the JLU version better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjcyWuZwnrQ (starting 0:48)

Date: 2009-07-02 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xandertarbert.insanejournal.com
Motto.

The Atom: He's bigger than my car now, Katie. Personally, I blame you.
Katie: What? How is it my fault?
The Atom: Because then it would be my fault. And that's not right, I'm a professor.

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Date: 2009-07-02 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majingojira.insanejournal.com
Bah. Currently, I'll take Ryan Choi over this.

God I hope this doesn't dispell him to limbo.

Date: 2009-07-02 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majingojira.insanejournal.com
(Reads again)

Crapcicle. Retract the first part, but the second still holds.

That'll teach me to skim!

Date: 2009-07-02 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kagome654.insanejournal.com
I can feel my enthusiasm for this title fading....fading....fading!

Date: 2009-07-02 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehefner.insanejournal.com
I'm almost sad that we can't post more scans of it here. I was waiting for the wank when it was discovered that in this issue, Robinson killed off not one, but two--two!--black characters for the other characters to swear vengeance. Er, I mean, "justice."

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Date: 2009-07-02 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novickian.insanejournal.com
This artwork is simply is amazing. First art I saw this morning, and it is sending me on my way with a peaceful, easy feeling, despite the context.

Date: 2009-07-02 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottyquick.insanejournal.com
Bright side, gorgeous art and RYAAAAN!!

Date: 2009-07-02 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perletwo.insanejournal.com
Dude. I seriously hope you're going to take a long, long shower before you go looking for ... JUSTICE!!!11!!1!

Date: 2009-07-02 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
Snot means nothing when you're getting...JUSTICE!

Yeah...justice!

Date: 2009-07-02 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gailsimone.insanejournal.com
I haven't read this yet, but that's a very nice Ryan Choi James has written, right there. Cool!

Date: 2009-07-02 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzene.insanejournal.com
I'm certain I had a comment to make about the comic, but...PUPPY! Greyhound?

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Date: 2009-07-02 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xammax.insanejournal.com
So the next time someone asks why Batman had all those plans, and why did he need to be paranoid because his friends would never ever do something like this... remember this. Apparently they were all just waiting for him to die, and now that he has they think their safe.

Their needs to be Bat-whoopings when he returns. Even though he does some scary shit himself.

Date: 2009-07-02 03:29 pm (UTC)
kingrockwell: he's a sexy (Ray Palmer)
From: [personal profile] kingrockwell
Well, for one thing, Ray Palmer likes to hide in sandwiches.

Date: 2009-07-02 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottyquick.insanejournal.com
Sandwhiches that Hawkman loves!

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Superdictionary FTW!

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Date: 2009-07-02 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyrotwilight.insanejournal.com
It tells me something that I want Tomorrow Woman to come in and flip out over what the League's doing. That or lobotimize them.

Date: 2009-07-02 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
"But...but you're supposed to be HEROES!"

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Date: 2009-07-02 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parsimonia.insanejournal.com
So...what's all this about Killer Moth swimming in a time pool? Anything to do with that Booster Gold arc a while back?

Date: 2009-07-03 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jlroberson.insanejournal.com
Every time I see moths in a pool it's because they're drowned.

Personally, I think he does deserve torture, but for his tights.

Meanwhile in Super hero Heaven:

Date: 2009-07-02 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yaseen101.insanejournal.com
BRUCE: HA!! I told you Clark! I told you something like this would happen! But nooooo, we are all superheroes we are suppoused to trust them!! Who's the crazy psycho now huh Clark? Who's the crazy psycho now!! *does Dr. Moist's happy dance* Meanwhile Clark suddenly wakes up next to Lois: Clark: Lois??!! Lois: mmmmhhmm, what is it Clark? Clark: I think we need to cut down on the sugar before bed.
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