Batman 50

Mar. 23rd, 2016 08:24 pm
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So we are here, with the last issue of the Superheavy and the penultimate issue fo Snyder's Batman run. The last issue showed us the return of Bruce Wayne and made it clear that it was a tragic event. This issue shows us the clash between Gordon, Duke, Batman and Bloom.

Now, the issue itself is actually told from the perspective of Jim Gordon and it's kind of crazy. For example, this is how Batman returns as two Gothamites infected by Bloom are about to kill Gordon, telling him that he is not Batman.

I'm not actually going to post scenes from that conflict, as it would be a nightmare to show. Let's just say  a lot of awesome things happen and both Duke and Gordon save Batman's life in the fight and he saves theirs. Also, the very sight of Batman is enough for Gothamites to begin rejecting Blooms seeds.

Instead I want to post a couple of scenes from the end discussion between Gordon and Batman as it manages to illustrate something really beautiful Snyder manages to do in this issue. One of the things constant in Gordon's internal dialgoue is that him becoming was stupid, because he is not Batmna. Only one person can be Batman, although I'd argue there is one other person who can be that but that is a different discussion.

The point in Jim's realization is that the police should not try to be Batman, they should to try to be the police and embrace that role. They should try to be the everyday heroes they can, because that is what Batman does. He inspires people to hope, to strive to be something better. I can't do it justice here, Jim's internal speech is just beautiful.

While they talk, we see scenes with Duke being comforted by Bruce and Madison thinking she saw Bruce near the shelter. Gordon tells Batman that when he was away, he was somewhere, he was at peace. That the whole city could feel that Batman was at rest and that he had earned it. That it was the city's time to do their part, to follow Batman's example.

At the end, I want to draw attention to details of Snyder's semi-farewell here.

First, what he managed is to do here is quite beautiful on so many levels. There is no question that Batman is a creature of tragedy, that to be Batman is a sacrifice. Yet in this story, Snyder also shows what the good that comes from that sacrifice. He managed to create a Batman that is unquestionable dark, but at the some illustrate the light that creature brings to Gotham. I saw some reviewers argue that this a sign of a happier, more balanced Batman and I, to be honest, kind of feel they missed to ultimate point of the story. Not to mention I can't understand how they could think that after the last issue.

Second, there are a lot of call-backs to Batman: Year One in this story. Really blatant references. Yet, in this end Snyder avoids the clear reference a lesser writer would go for by hinting at the end of the Joker, as we know that that will happen due to the 'sane' Joker begging Bruce not go back to being Batman as he knew that meant he would back to being the Joker. Yet at the same time Snyder manages to introduce that bittersweet moment at the end. In Year One, it was Gordon mentioning the Joker, neither him or Batman understanding the horrors Batman's arrival would bring to Gotham. Here, it is Julie staring at Bruce's name, reminding us of the sacrifice required for there to be the Dark Knight of Gotham to inpire all.

I end here and recommend everyone to read this storyline. Also, DC is putting out a boxed collection of Snyder's Batman run, so there's a great chance to catch up with a defining run on the title.

Date: 2016-03-24 01:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
Hey! you're not going to yell at and possibly karate kick him for killing a few people while he was running around in a Bat-suit? If it was a Robin who did this you'd be crawling right up his ass for that.

Date: 2016-03-24 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] beardedjellybean
I think it comes down to the sometimes weird divide Batman's no-kill rule comes into play, he expects no killing from Robin and other heroes because they have the training and abilities to not to resort to it, while he lets it go with cops (if unhappily) if it really comes down to it as they are ultimately normal people facing adverse situations.

Apart from his bat-bunny armour Gordon is just a normal, if capable, guy who can handle himself in a fight but can't really take on half a dozen guys buy himself in a batsuit.

Date: 2016-03-24 07:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Well, he seems lighter on Jason Todd for the odd kill in this universe.

Date: 2016-03-24 07:03 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Which is just a horrible, horrible character beat for Batman.

Date: 2016-03-25 12:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sagrada
Seriously. Enabling Jason's homicides isn't doing anybody any good, especially not Jason himself. There's some pretty ugly words that can justly be levelled at the ultra-rich keeping their family above the law and out of reach of justice.

Date: 2016-03-24 03:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
That cut off B....

Is that the most canon evidence to "Gordon knows" that we'll ever get?

Date: 2016-03-24 06:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
I thought that they had Jim outright coming to Bruce to say "We need Batman back" earlier in this arc?
From: [personal profile] chortles81
That one was him asking Bruce for reworking the Batsuit/armor so that Jim could go off-grid from Powers monitoring.

Date: 2016-03-24 06:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I think it's basically just Gordon calling Batman 'B' out of familiarity, which works, given both characters are younger these days. That said, I'd argue Gordon's always known anyway. He's too smart not to, and even though it's out of canon these days, Year One had him offering up a piss-poor 'can't see nothing without my glasses' excuse when Bruce/Batman is basically unmasked at the end.

Edited Date: 2016-03-24 06:50 am (UTC)

Reminds me of that one Injustice issue

Date: 2016-03-24 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] chortles81
Where Gordon affirmed that he's a detective, of course he knew about Bruce and Barbara.

Re: Reminds me of that one Injustice issue

Date: 2016-03-24 07:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
If he hasn't sussed it after the on-air revelation that Dick Grayson was Nightwing, he shouldn't be called a detective.

Re: Reminds me of that one Injustice issue

Date: 2016-03-24 10:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
After recent issues of Batgirl, at least what we've seen in the scans... I think it'd be a stretch to say he knows about Babs. I think parental blinders are in full effect on that one, even if he knows everything else.

...and it's not like DC has been doing much fallout from the Dick Grayson reveal anyway! Just "Oop, Dick is dead, youink!"
Edited Date: 2016-03-24 10:40 pm (UTC)

Re: Reminds me of that one Injustice issue

Date: 2016-03-25 06:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
I always sort of wondered if some versions know, and other versions don't. And I don't mean like the '66 version, but the truly comparable versions of the character.

Date: 2016-03-24 08:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thosefew
How long has it been that Jim Gordon's moustache is visibly returning? Tangentially, how powerful is Jim Gordon's moustache?

Date: 2016-03-24 11:55 am (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
Let's just say even Deadshot looks at Gordon's stache and goes, "Damn dude!"

Date: 2016-03-28 04:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
weird question... was Bloom based on Leopold Bloom, from Ulysses?


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