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I was considering doing a retrospective of the series starting with Volume 1 sometime in the future, but i thought it would be nice to post this as it's own thing.



Volume 16: 15 pages out of 189

I am not going to every detail of what happened before this point, but here is the basic:
Wapol, The king of Drum Island, is corrupt and has forbidden all doctors besides the twenty physicians under his service and people need to go beg to be cured.
Hiruluk is a clumsy doctor who chose to stay on Drum Island despite the danger it posed to himself because he wanted to cure people.
At one point he met Chopper and basically adopted him as his own son.
Hiruluk has a terminal disease and he has only a few weeks left and Chopper, who is just a kid, endangered himself to find a mushroom that, he thought, could cure Hiruluk

we begin at the end of chapter 143: Clumsy







Then we cut to chapter 144: Snow Tale


After this, Hiruluk goes to meet Dr. Kureha, who is the only other doctor remaining and the exact opposite of him when it comes to medicine, to ask her to continue his work and to train Chopper to be a Doctor

We discover the twenty physicians have gotten sick and is creating panic throughout the kingdom. As soon as he discovers this, Hiruluk runs to the castle and Kureha visits Hiruluk and Chopper's house. and then...



The chapter ends with Hiruluk demanding to meet the Twenty Physicians so he can cure the Physicians.

and so begins Chapter 145: carrying on his will

It was all a lie. the physicians are fine. king Wapol took away the kingdom's only means to heal in an attempt to capture Hiruluk.

His reaction?



"When does a man die?"






Date: 2016-11-16 06:39 pm (UTC)
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My favourite One Piece scene:

Date: 2016-11-16 06:49 pm (UTC)
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I really need to get back to reading One Piece. I fell in love with the mix of absurdist humor with genuinely touching scenes like this, but I think I just got a little worn out after reading it for so long. I quit reading around the time they arrived at the kingdom where Doflamingo ruled with the toy soldier guy running around (or something like that).

Date: 2016-11-16 07:28 pm (UTC)
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I love how Do Flamingo is figuratively a pink flamingo and still manages to feel threatening and imposing. The parts where he looms over Luffy gave me shivers.

In general I love OP villain design.

Date: 2016-11-16 09:03 pm (UTC)
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I feel that post-time-skip has not lived up to the standards of pre. The arcs are big (Dressrosa is easily the longest arc to date), and the women crew have gotten very little role.

Maybe it'll hit high again, but it's been awhile since it really dialed in IMO.

Date: 2016-11-17 11:15 am (UTC)
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I don't mind the big arcs, but women's importance has definitely diminished in proportion to how their breasts were augmented, and there was basically zero character development. I still read it because I enjoy Oda's creativity and humor, but…

Date: 2016-11-17 09:41 pm (UTC)
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*Nodsnods* Pacing is one of my big story structure issues in anything, women characterization in characters.

And yea, seems like the 'hourglass figure' has become even more prominent in OP.

Date: 2016-11-17 11:24 am (UTC)
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To be 'fair,' most of the crew is working in a diminished capacity post time skip, I think it has just bloated to an unwieldy size (complicated further by Oda focusing on breakout, non crew, characters like Law). I mean, as of now, I can't say that Nami has had less of a role than Brook or Franky.

Not that I'd really defend Oda's writing of women in general, he is, imo, worse than many of his male peers in that regard (not that you'd ever get a lot of his fans to admit that there's a problem with how he writes women).

Though the current arc, Whole Cake Island, is interesting. The number of potential female antagonists has ballooned, if nothing else.

Date: 2016-11-17 09:40 pm (UTC)
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Right! Early on he had some *very good women-centered stories*. Now, not as much.

Date: 2016-11-18 10:40 am (UTC)
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Kureha was good. Vivi was a strong character, which makes it all the more obvious how badly he dropped the ball with Rebecca and Shirahoshi. Vivi wasn't a strong fighter and just wanted a peaceful life for herself and her country, but she never managed to come across as weak willed as the princess characters that came later.

I'm really hoping with the sudden influx of women on Whole Cake Island (including what appears to be an actual competent swords-woman!) we might get some strong women, and Nami seems a little more involved, but I am concerned that the sheer number of characters involved means there will be no standouts again.

Date: 2016-11-17 09:36 pm (UTC)
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-To be 'fair,' most of the crew is working in a diminished capacity post time skip, I think it has just bloated to an unwieldy size (complicated further by Oda focusing on breakout, non crew, characters like Law). I mean, as of now, I can't say that Nami has had less of a role than Brook or Franky.-

Sure, but none of the women on the crew have had a notable role or a solo fight in, what, 4 arcs now? (Franky did have a solo fight vs one of the executives) One of them literally the biggest arc to date, bigger than old 'everyone gets a fight' arcs.

Navy swordswomen broke down and cried on the battlefield, then got assigned to take care of kids.

Rebecca, the new major woman character, had her arc be about how she wanted to be a daddy's girl.

Also of note: Oda had a daughter relatively recently. Odds seem... good that that's had an effect (and she reportedly prefers Pretty Cure to One Piece).


-Not that I'd really defend Oda's writing of women in general, he is, imo, worse than many of his male peers in that regard (not that you'd ever get a lot of his fans to admit that there's a problem with how he writes women). -

*Nods*

Naruto, Fairy Tail, Seven Deadly Sins, My Hero Academia....

Date: 2016-11-18 07:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
-and there are a good number of moments that makes me go "huh... the women of this series actually have interactions between them and narratives that don't necessarily involve boys..."-

Erza never ceases to be a force of nature. It's literally the last arc and she's still got a huge role, she's never been sidelined. And normally in an arc, when Natsu is fighting the final foe? It's normally after Erza has done something ridiculously badass to make it possible- sometimes after beating a foe Natsu couldn't, or taking down multiple sub-bosses, or dealing with some huge weapon.

The fanservice can be much and some scenes get A Look from me, but Erza is basically what I always wanted in a shonen fight woman character.

Date: 2016-11-18 10:34 am (UTC)
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Oh, gosh, please don't think I'm at all okay with the way Oda's been treating his lady characters, I FULLY agree that its been awful since the time skip. Tashigi's treatment in particular has remained a sore spot for me (and I'm flabbergasted by her fans who still pair her with Zoro, despite his condescending treatment with her on Punk Hazard), and Rebecca disappointed us all, I suppose I was just thinking about how much it bothers me that a lot of the crew seems to be sidelined for Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. I wasn't thinking so much about solo fights. You're right though, Franky has had at least one solo fight, while Robin is typically stuck playing defence (despite a near broken devil fruit! She should be able to end most fights pretty quickly) and Nami is typically fighting with someone else. The simple fact NEITHER of them learned haki during the timeskip, despite Robin being with Monkey D. Dragon of all people, says a lot about how seriously Oda thinks of them as fighters, imo.

His treatment of lady characters (not just the fanservice, which is ridiculous but tolerable to me) is one of the reasons that despite all the good memories the manga and anime has given me I generally don't recommend it to anyone anymore.

Date: 2016-11-18 10:04 pm (UTC)
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-His treatment of lady characters (not just the fanservice, which is ridiculous but tolerable to me) is one of the reasons that despite all the good memories the manga and anime has given me I generally don't recommend it to anyone anymore. -

Yea. OP has slid for me from 'best of the three big series,' to 'ok, not on the recommendation list, and of the old big three, Naruto ended up winning hands down, and a number of 'smaller' series have surpassed the other two.'

Though on a more upbeat note, My Hero Academia is a shonen series doing a much better job.


-while Robin is typically stuck playing defence (despite a near broken devil fruit! She should be able to end most fights pretty quickly) -

What fights she's had in the series, have been great! Though her last one on one was.... yikes, Skypeia? Unless one counts her breaking Aokiji in half- and Thriller Bark gave her a pretty nice 2-on-1 alongside Franky and a good role in the Oars fight.

I get the idea that Oda had a few ideas for how she fights then just kinda gave up, and largely had her play support since.

Date: 2016-11-17 11:29 am (UTC)
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Aw, Chopper. Back when he had (sort of) a proper snout.

Thanks for posting. I really need to do a rewatch/reread.

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