IVX #3

Jan. 25th, 2017 09:23 am
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The art is by Javier Garron.

Hopefully Soule will have a good explanation for why Synapse and Moon Girl would want to help, since they've both been opposed to the terrigen cloud.

"God forbid they find Black Bolt." We see Bolt imprisoned in some kind of machine.

Date: 2017-01-25 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Ah, Emma going back to her Claremontian roots.

Not sure that is Rogue. She doesn't seem to have accent, and... why is she not using contractions?
Did someone get her mixed up with someone else?

-"They will be seeking retribution"-
Yeah, well, that's what happens when you attack a group of people led by a queen with a bad temper, and a non-existent sense of proportionate response.

-"Hopefully Soule will have a good explanation"-
Moon Girl likes peanut butter?

Date: 2017-01-25 02:56 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
I doubt Moon Girl would be OK with X-Men, the so called heroes killing and kidnapping people.

And yes, some of the tie ins have shown the civilian Inhumans getting killed, by guys like Sabretooth.

Date: 2017-01-25 03:12 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Now you're just making things up. The Inhumans as a group didn't kill Cyclops.

You're ridiculous if you think that justifies murdering the civilians, respectively, get the f out of here with that.

Date: 2017-01-25 04:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
They were the ones that thought having Sabretooth on the team was a good idea.

Look, if you think Moon Girl would be OK with anyone dying, inhuman or mutant, then you've misunderstood what kinda hero she is.

She'd rather find a peaceful solution too.

Date: 2017-01-25 04:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Right now it comes down to "Mutants are rapidly dying, the earth will be uninhabitable in literally days and top minds haven't been able to find a cure" versus " but muh culture" and she's still siding with the latter.

Date: 2017-01-25 05:23 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
She's not fighting for the cloud.

Date: 2017-01-26 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mindsweeper
I guess I'll never find out, because I'm done with her, Kamala and this series. Bring on ResurrXion where hopefully the forced exposure to these inhumans will be over.

Date: 2017-01-25 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
It is believed that Black Bolt killed Cyclops with the OK of Medusa, their queen. With Cyclops being the last person to be in charge of all mutants, that is pretty clearly Casus Belli.

Date: 2017-01-25 04:20 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
But they already got Black Bolt and Medusa, no reason to go after civilians, who were just scared and didn't know what was going on.

Date: 2017-01-25 05:00 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
True, but it still happened and they are did because of it. Either by M or by demons.

It just doesn't seem as well thought out as they made it out to be.

Date: 2017-01-25 05:22 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
They've also helped mutants evacuate and save them, kinds of an important difference.

Date: 2017-01-27 07:21 am (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
No they weren't. Maybe Rachel, but certainly not Creed.

And the Inhumans were looking into alternatives and helping mutants evacuate.

Date: 2017-01-25 03:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lucean
I keep wondering if the writers are actively what a hypocrite Hank is in these stories. Seriously, Hank, you were working for peace while knowing this was actively killing the mutants?

Also I have to admit that I'm becoming slightly annoyed with the constant focus about how the X-Men can't take on the Royal Family somehow as that just seems undersell who the X-Men are pretty hard, even if they don't have one of the greatest tactical minds in history with them anymore.

Date: 2017-01-25 03:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
He was trying to find a peaceful solution through Science, yes. How is that hypocritical?

Date: 2017-01-25 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
Well, consider the source. Magneto has very, very good reasons for not wanting direct conflict with the royal family. And I think it getting a bit obvious here. The Inhuman royal family without Black Bolt...

Medusa has what amounts to some limited TK. Gorgon has some low-level superstrength and can...well, stomp his foot. Triton actually has some decent, class 50 strength in addition to being able to breathe water (but not air). Crystal is about equivalent to Amara and Ororo, less wattage but more flexibility. Karnak has no powers beyond the Inhuman enhanced physiology and is basically in Iron Fists class.

Compared to what the mutants have, that's pretty much nothing.

There is also the Unspoken and Maximus, both of which are powerful but not actually aligned with the royal family at the moment. Luna may be powerful, we don't really have a gauge of her power yet.

Date: 2017-01-25 03:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mesmiranda
Is it just me, or do some of the guys look kind of... stumpy in a few panels?

Date: 2017-01-25 03:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
I wonder what Kamala and the others' justification will be for mutant genocide.

Also if Moon Girl is supposedly the smartest person in the MU why haven't they asked her for help in making a cure for M-Pox?

Date: 2017-01-25 07:19 pm (UTC)
informationgeek: (RainbowDash)
From: [personal profile] informationgeek
No X-Men or Inhuman writer or editor actually talk to one another when doing these crossovers, do they?

Date: 2017-01-25 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
They try. Then, for reasons no-one's really clear on, they start brawling and screaming "I hate you! I've always hated you!"

[/not serious]

Come to think of it

Date: 2017-01-25 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] chortles81
Doesn't this issue fly in the face of Champions #4?

Date: 2017-01-25 08:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] balbanes
So, just read this. Forge built a machine that can pull in all the Terrigen gas and compress it, which he then plans to incinerate. Why didn't the mutants just give the compressed gas to the Inhumans? The Inhumans can release it into some enclosed area in Attilan, and have all the mutant-safe terrigenesis they want.

Also, Forge's machine was the culmination of the X-people's plan. If it succeeds, the fight is over. So why was only Logan guarding Forge, with the other X-folks hanging out somewhere else?

This whole series gets stupider and stupider.

Date: 2017-01-26 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
They might even compress them into a solid form.

Like say, crystals.

Date: 2017-01-26 01:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] balbanes
Well to be fair, solidifying a gas requires certain pressures and temperatures. And its not like the Inhumans have people that can control those two things. Like, say, the two NuHumans who were right next to the machine.

Actually, I don't know if Dante's power set includes absorbing temperatures, the way Johnny's (sometimes) does. And it's not like Inhumans have Johnny on speed dial or anything...

Date: 2017-01-26 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Hey, it's not like any member of the Inhuman Royal Family has the ability to command the classical elements.
Y'know. Water, earth, fire. Air.

And it's not like this hypothetical Inhuman has been following the cloud around the world in any way.

Date: 2017-01-26 02:01 am (UTC)
tugrul: That Chest (Default)
From: [personal profile] tugrul
I was like what? THAT's the mutants solution? Some super vacuum machine on wheels? GET THE FUCK OUT!

Death of X was brilliant. This series is started off great. I don't really get why they're still holding down the fortress while they could be testing every mutant power on the cloud with reprisal.

Date: 2017-01-26 02:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katefan
I don't think there is a lot of good editorial oversight going on these days at Marvel, so an writer using Moon Girl in this issue is pretty much like Doctor Doom and his mother being able to use magic when in the Doctor Strange comic magic was almost all but destroyed on Earth.

Date: 2017-01-27 01:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
I can't help but think that if the table were turned, if there was a cloud that was creating new mutants and killing Inhumans, Black Bolt would have already screamed it out of existence.

Date: 2017-01-28 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
So, Iso's plan is, "New Attilan just got spanked, let's round up a handful of Nuhumans the X-Men missed and throw them into the same meat grinder"?


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