Date: 2017-01-26 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Little known fact: On the inside, every Skrull is actually a moody teenager.
It's why they all dress the same.

Gosh, remember all the work Busiek and also Johns if we're being nice, did to try and mend the bridges between Hank and Jan?
Because every ex-couple must have the emotional sophistication of a toddler, and could never stand to be in the same room as one another.
That's, like, scientific fact, or whatever.

Date: 2017-01-26 09:14 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
I also hated how BMB has Janet all judgemental about it being Tigra Hank was seeing.

Like Janet and Tigra never had a problem with each other before.

Date: 2017-01-27 07:31 am (UTC)
dcbanacek: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dcbanacek
IIRC, Janet has had her fair share of "questionable" choices in partners post-Hank as well.

Seriously though, its really annoying when writers boil down the dynamic of Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne as "Guy who hit his wife" and "Woman who was hit by her husband".

Date: 2017-01-26 07:38 pm (UTC)
byc: (Default)
From: [personal profile] byc
I never realized it before...but doesn't all the characters look kind of old with all the facial lines in Cho's art? Maybe he might for it in this issue to represent the stress of fighting Ultron?

Date: 2017-01-26 09:54 pm (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Tony knows his priorities.

Date: 2017-01-27 12:58 am (UTC)
joetuss: Ali (Default)
From: [personal profile] joetuss
Don't know if you're being sarcastic, but that would've been my first concern as well

Date: 2017-01-26 11:30 pm (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
What is with those randomly placed logos? Did we really need to be told that Janet is the Wasp most of the way through the comic? She's already been in the issue, doing stuff. Imagine if Suicide Squad had stuck its character intro cards in the climax.

Date: 2017-01-26 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Maybe Bendis thought after all the ass shots the reader's brain would be scrambled.

Date: 2017-01-27 01:58 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Reasonable assumption.

Date: 2017-01-27 02:03 am (UTC)
zylly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zylly
Seriously. What is it with Bendis and this recurring idea that no one ever actually liked each other?

Date: 2017-01-27 02:17 am (UTC)
razsolo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] razsolo
Right?? They're all just so snarky and petty...Like the closest any of these people come to actually liking one another is they might grudgingly accept that someone can do their job. It's really off-putting; if I wanted to look at a bunch of nasty damaged people who hate one another I'd watch Everybody Loves Raymond reruns ;p

Date: 2017-01-27 02:31 am (UTC)
zylly: (Dr. Dinosaur Incognito)
From: [personal profile] zylly
Yeah. Snark has its place, but this isn't "Hawkeye giving Cap a hard time" level of snark. It's something much worse.

Among people who've worked together for years, who've developed deep bonds of friendship and camaraderie... Yeah, none of them know Ares or Sentry, but the others should be better than this.

Date: 2017-01-27 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Well, if one was being generous (and for the sake of the sake, let's say I am), it could be said that, in this specific instance, the team of Avengers all getting along and hating one another is deliberate.
It's meant to indicate how Tony's attempt to manufacture an Avengers team lacks the heart and / or soul of an actual team, since rather than being brought together by coincidence or common purpose or shared beliefs, they're just there because Tony said so.
So they lack any actual cohesion.

Of course, this falls apart given outside of Ares and Sentry, they've all worked together in one way or another for years.
Hell, Jan and Nat have led the Avengers before.

So, to answer the question... Bendis doesn't know how to write half the team he chose.

Date: 2017-01-27 02:39 am (UTC)
zylly: (XKCD)
From: [personal profile] zylly
Actually, that makes a certain amount of sense. There was a big emphasis in the early days of Bendis's first New Avengers volume on how it was people coming together through random chance, but the pieces fitting together perfectly.

Of course, this equally falls apart in the second volume of New Avengers, which is pretty much literally, "Luke Cage gets his buddies to be Avengers."

Date: 2017-01-27 03:02 am (UTC)
burkeonthesly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] burkeonthesly
Given the consistency with which Bendis writes people this way, I'm starting to think it might just be how he thinks people relate to one another. When I was a kid, I had "friends" with whom everything was a constant contest to see who could cut whom down with a clever line, and I'm not proud to say that I was as guilty as any of them. It was sitcom friendship, where we'd hang out together and tear each other apart for the benefit of an audience that didn't exist. That's what this writing, and Bendis' characters in general, remind me of.

If I'd never met any better people than the ones I was friends with as a child, I would still think that's how every relationship works.

Date: 2017-01-27 03:09 am (UTC)
zylly: (Pabu)
From: [personal profile] zylly
I think you might be on to something there.

Date: 2017-01-27 03:21 am (UTC)
burkeonthesly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] burkeonthesly

I like your icon. What is it from?

Date: 2017-01-27 03:24 am (UTC)
zylly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zylly
That's Pabu! He's a Fire-Ferret from the Nickelodeon show The Legend of Korra.

Date: 2017-01-27 03:34 am (UTC)
burkeonthesly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] burkeonthesly

I thought he looked familiar, thank you.


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