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Following the request for some upbeat What if...? stories, I submit this reposting from over 6 years ago (Good grief, I've been here a long time!!!)

The cover alone convinced me that this was likely to be an interesting alternate world! :D




At the end of the Asgardian Wars Loki gave the X-Men and New Mutants a choice, stay in Asgard and keep all that they had achieved there, all the new lives and new loves they had found, and in the case of Storm, powers returned to her, or return to Earth as they had been before they arrived; Storm would be powerless, Magma would be human instead of the elf-form the elven folk had curssed her with, and so on (The only exception he made, out of narrative necessity courtesy, was that Karma would NOT be returned to the grotesquely obese form her time under the control of the Shadow King had given her). The choice HAD to be unanimous though

Of course, in the mainstream MU, the choice to return to was made, but this IS a "What if...?"

8 pages out of 30, story and art by Jim Valentino...

The best What if's have a plausible turning point, and I like this one...

In this timeline Wolfsbane is the one who realises that she cannot leave behind Hrimrari the Wolf Prince, who she loves. The X-Men try to convince her otherwise, but it's her best friend Dani who is the first to stand defend her decision, against Wolverine's pointing out that they all have a say in such a choice.... It's a great moment for Dani...





Okay some selfishness there to be sure (notably in Warlock's "If I don't leave i'll DIE" and that not being an automatic deal breaker for everyone else), but that's human... (Doug staying is a little odd too, as though he CAN read any language it's not something he tended to make a study of for the sake of it (and I'm sure he'd miss video games and the like), but never mind)

Loki, of course, has a plan...



We see no more of that X-Men team, which is a shame. Warlock isn't there which makes me sad, perhaps without Doug he returned to space.



See what a fun world this was? So many great little ideas, Kurt in his element, Doug becoming the first librarian in Asgardian history and respected as such, Rogue getting a guy worthy of her (Though her being able to touch Asgardians without leeching them wasn't quite the case based on other stories, but again, we'll cope)

Things don't go well though, as with Thor still a frog on Earth, Hela leads an assault on Asgard, we're not going into much of that though, you'll need to buy the comic for that! :P

I leave this page in as someone who never much cared for the character in question, though I appreciate and respect that he has his fans.



Cypher doesn't get shot by the Ani-Mator and Sunspot meets his maker fighting Hela herself, I like this timeline.

The X-Men's involvement is pivotal, as they bring their allies to side with Asgard. Sam brings the Dwarves, Rahne brings the Wolves, Balder prevents Karnilla from killing Magik (She doesn't like the competition) and the Norns side with Asgard against Loki too. The Mighty Thor (still in "Frog of Thunder" mode) returns and fights Storm, who is being influenced by Loki for his own ends... And Dani.. she brings her sister Valkyrie, who between them have the power to destroy the now power-mad Hela, though the cost is that Dani must take on the mantle of the death goddess herself.

The war is won by Asgard, though there are more losses, most notably Hrimrari the wolf-prince, and now a new order is established, courtesy of Thor...



And now we see how the NEW Asgard lines up



So, Loki, by lies and misdirection, brings peace to Asgard, more peace than they've ever known before. As such he gets his just reward from "Those Who Sit Above in Shadow"... they keep their promise that he is made King of all Asgard... but because of the methods he chose, he is made King of Asgard at the end of all times.. as the charred ruin of long, long dead Asgard plummets towards an all destroying black hole...

Now, tell me, wouldn't YOU want to see more stories in this timeline?

Date: 2017-02-02 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Geez. Even when Rhane gets her happy ending, there's still some misery in it.
(Still, at least this time she didn't give birth via vomiting...)

And it's nice that Rogue gets an ending where she isn't stabbed to death by Sinister.

It would be intriguing to see what became of the X-Men of that 'verse...
Guessing without X-Factor, and their stupid, stupid idea of pretending to be mutant exterminators, the 80s went a bit more smoothly for the X-Men.

Date: 2017-02-02 05:21 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: Stripper in spartan outfit (This..is...Spartaaa!)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
"special contact" between hammers..heh heh

Ororo's crown helm has some super ridiculous horns there.

Date: 2017-02-02 06:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] every_spiegel
they keep their promise that he is made King of all Asgard... but because of the methods he chose, he is made King of Asgard at the end of all times.. as the charred ruin of long, long dead Asgard plummets towards an all destroying black hole...
Well, that sucks. No news here, though.

A very interesting what-if regardless!

Date: 2017-02-02 07:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] balbanes
Why would using "the old laws" make Ororo's reign wise and just? I get that the writer wanted Doug to contribute, but in my experience old laws are uniformly horrible. Ye olden times aren't exactly enlightened times.

Just nitpicking at reflexive ancestor veneration. :)

Date: 2017-02-02 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
The author might be taking inspiration from Wagner, where Wotan has made lots of pacts to preserve the gods but broken lots of them as well. If so, the old laws aren't so much legislation as treaty, and fairly abiding by one's agreements with others even when they've put you at a disadvantage in the past (else why start ignoring them) could be viewed as a step in the right direction.

Date: 2017-02-02 11:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
"Sorry, Warlock! I know you'll die here, but I want to swashbuckle!"

Date: 2017-02-03 01:35 am (UTC)
zylly: (Bamf Doll)
From: [personal profile] zylly
Another fun one.

Though on the subject of Warlock, as I recall in the New Mutants Special, he was able to successfully transmode and drain a couple of Asgardian monsters. Perhaps he's referring to the overall lack of electricity and such.

Date: 2017-02-03 02:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cygnia
I have this issue...*rueful sigh*

(a gift from a late friend)

Date: 2017-02-03 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
It's kind of weird that Warlock can eat Limbo Demons but not like Asgardian deer or anything?

Date: 2017-02-03 04:06 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
[Nevermind, I seem to have missed the first paragraph.]
Edited Date: 2017-02-03 04:08 pm (UTC)

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