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TW: Blood, death, terrorism allusions.

From Wolverine #42, written by Mark Guggenheim and with (beautiful) art by Humberto Ramos.
The Crusader is a favourite villain of mine. He explores what real-life religious fanatics would make of a world where Norse Gods, Spider-Men and Squirrel Girl were a fact of everyday life. In his first appearance, he was downright deadly, actually winning his first fight with Thor thanks to his enchanted armour and sword. But by the time of this comic, he's clearly a little more desperate - but no less fanatical!



Date: 2017-02-10 09:08 pm (UTC)
nyadnar17: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
He is boring to me. Like seriously most religious villains are boring because all they do is quote random scripture verses the author looked up on google.

Its a shame really. Because if you were willing to put in the work you could come up with or find theologically compelling motivations for such villains. Hell most fanatical athetist villains are given pretty interesting philosophical motivations taken from the great philosophical arguments of history. But religious villains? Nah, why bother.

Date: 2017-02-11 12:25 am (UTC)
lamashtar: Shun the nonbelievers! Shun-na! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
Its epic when you have someone who speaks the same language. I remember a teacher just going OFF online with Biblical verses on some hatemail once.

Date: 2017-02-11 04:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
That's because religious zealots are inherently ridiculous and by definition, delusional.

Date: 2017-02-10 09:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Meh, this is just your standard "You know he's crazy/evil because he quotes the Bible" strawman villain (because most violent religious extremists are Christian apparently).

There was actually a Thor story where Thor met with a priest on his deathbed that addressed what someone like him would make of Norse gods walking around in a more eloquent fashion than this.
Edited Date: 2017-02-10 09:17 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-02-11 04:31 am (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
"because most violent religious extremists are Christian apparently"

Guess you never heard of the crusades, which you know, is what the Crusader references.

Or going more recent, every racist idiot that uses the bible to justify their racism and homophobia.

Date: 2017-02-11 02:56 pm (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Yeah I'm aware of something that occurred over a thousand years ago.

Date: 2017-02-10 11:53 pm (UTC)
tugrul: That Chest (Default)
From: [personal profile] tugrul
He appeals to me as well, simply because he is a threat and he is used sparingly. Maybe the top example is not the best example.

Date: 2017-02-11 12:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Explain to me how someone who could win a fight against Thor could lose one to Wolverine? If I recall correctly, he can barely scratch the skin of opponents with Hulk-level invulnerability, and anyone with less than that would be KO'd (if not splattered like a water balloon) if Thor swung Mjolnir at them in earnest.

Date: 2017-02-11 03:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] joetuss
PIS the bane of my existence

Date: 2017-02-11 04:32 am (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Then you don't know how his powers work, because The Crusader is one of those "strong as they need to be" types.

Because, you know, his faith is proportionate to his faith and confidence.


Edited Date: 2017-02-11 04:42 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-02-11 04:32 am (UTC)
lilacsigil: Beast, Marvel Comics (beast)
From: [personal profile] lilacsigil
When he fought Thor he had enchanted armour and weapons but I don't believe he has those now, hence the power-down.

Date: 2017-02-11 04:39 am (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
That and his strength is proportionate to his faith and confidence.

Date: 2017-02-11 04:36 am (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Not quit, Wolverine has cut Abomination and the Hulk himself, so yes he can cut Hulk level folk.

Doesn't mean he wins, but remember he has Adamantium claws.

Plus the issue wasn't being able to cut the Hulk, the issue was that Hulk has a healing factor too. So if you are able to cut Hulk's invulnerable skin, he'll just heal.
Edited Date: 2017-02-11 05:58 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-02-11 05:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
I said barely. I remember that big 3-way fight he had with the Hulk and Wendigo, and he was only able to inflict superficial injuries on the Hulk, like what I just got when my cat fell on me claws-first.

Date: 2017-02-11 05:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
"I love corn" sounds familiar.

Did Wizard or Toyfare riff on that?

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