Date: 2017-02-11 08:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Tony just can't resist telling people off, even when he's trying to recruit them, can he?

Also, why'd Namor and Hulk team up?

Date: 2017-02-11 11:01 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Ah, yea.

Honestly 'Tony Stark Dies' is one of the *better* possible outcomes of that, the world didn't have a lot of firepower against that kind of duo (the What If is pretty generous in letting Tony invent *phasing armor*, and heck, time to make all those suits so fast).

Date: 2017-02-11 10:14 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: Jesus Troll (jesustroll)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
Avenger's plans: bring superpowered people and techno savants together to fight, then win when a villain has personal feelings about someone on your side

Date: 2017-02-11 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
This isn't really Janet's finest showing.
Or Hank's either, given how much of a berk he's being throughout.
But Jan's going along with his berkery is... pretty weird and alarming.


(And once again, the whole "Iron Man is Tony's bodyguard" idea proves just how paper-thin it was in the first place. It's amazing it lasted ten minutes, never mind several decades...)

Date: 2017-02-12 01:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] razsolo
It is pretty true to her character back in those days but yeesh...that was not a good time to be a superheroine lol

Date: 2017-02-12 01:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lyricalswagger
I am glad they've pretty much retconned away that part of Jan's (and Hank's) personality.

Date: 2017-02-12 10:21 pm (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Makes how they handled it in the movie all the better.

Date: 2017-02-12 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
That is probably the best bit of the Iron Man movies.

... of course, it's helped by A: Movie Tony being so much worse at keeping things under wraps, and B: Being Movie SHIELD's idea, and like all versions of SHIELD, meant it would've been doomed to utter failure anyway.

(Never mind that in the era of Youtube, Tony trying to keep his identity secret would last only as long as it took someone to catch a video of Iron Man speaking, then to figure out they speak exactly like Tony.)

Date: 2017-02-13 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
More than that, though, Tony Stark would still be liable for Iron Man's actions, and anyone who wanted to end Iron Man would have to kill Stark anyways.

So even if Stark could maintain a secret ID, it wouldn't matter. It wouldn't protect him in any meaningful way

Date: 2017-02-13 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Another great idea from one of the minds that brought the world the Negative Zone prison.

Date: 2017-02-12 01:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Constructing powered suits of armor for people who already have super-powers seems slightly excessive. "You're twelve feet tall and super-strong. Have armor." "You can shrink and fly. Have armor."

Date: 2017-02-12 01:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
To be fair, at the point and time of the original issue, the Hulk and Namor were pretty much the two most powerful people on the planet, outside of Thor. The good guys needed every advantage they could get.

Date: 2017-02-12 01:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lyricalswagger
Plus, if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So you give hammers to all your friends.

Date: 2017-02-12 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tcampbell1000
Gotta love that cover and the way it tries to jam two different ideas into a single image.

"F--- off, shellhead, we're all quitting."
"Like, RIGHT NOW? Because Hulk and Namor are going to land on me in SECONDS! What the hell happened to two weeks' notiEEEEEEYAAAAGH" CRUNCH

"If the Avengers had never been [except for the first two issues' worth of stories, which totally don't count] .." then the Avengers actually would still have been, only they'd be all wearing Iron Man suits for a while.

Date: 2017-02-12 10:22 pm (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Yeah, that last part didn't escape my attention, either.

Date: 2017-02-13 11:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
I notice that Namor and the Hulk both wander off free at the end. So I guess the whole bringing them to justice thing turned out to not be such a necessity after all?

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