WTF?

Date: 2017-03-03 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] 7dialsmystery
MISS GRUNDY!?

Re: WTF?

Date: 2017-03-03 04:06 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (witch (sexy))
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
Yep, the whole thing is pretty skeevy. 'Ms. Grundy' is definitely a predator, as one scene in particular showed. Classic Comics Grundy must be ready to boot this imposter out of town...or at least give her detention.

If this was Law & Order: SVU, Ms. Grundy would be led away in handcuffs.

Re: WTF?

Date: 2017-03-03 05:20 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I am glad they actually squashed it.

Re: WTF?

Date: 2017-03-04 12:14 am (UTC)
lamashtar: Shun the nonbelievers! Shun-na! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
I just....If Archie is going to fuck Ms Grundy then she should ACTUALLY LOOK like Ms Grundy.

Date: 2017-03-03 03:27 am (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Archie fucking Grundy is something I will never be able to comprehend. The only way this can make sense is if they actually introduce the -real- Ms. Grundy as this one's great-aunt or something.

Date: 2017-03-03 03:30 am (UTC)
deathcrist2000: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deathcrist2000
Funny you should say that...

Well, she's not this Grundy's great-aunt, but the lady Archie is in an abusive relationship with (as the show plays it so far) is not Ms. Grundy.

Date: 2017-03-03 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
And the photograph of the real Ms Grundy (whose identity she stole) resembles that of comic ms. Grundy

Date: 2017-03-03 08:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
And Miss Grundy's continued stressing that if he reveals their relationship then not only will she lose her job, but Archie will face expulsion is particularly noxious, since I don't believe that's how that situation would play out. HE hasn't committed a criminal act, but SHE has.

Date: 2017-03-03 05:23 pm (UTC)
bruinsfan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
She outright said that he would go to jail along with her if anyone found out. THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS! THAT'S NOT HOW ANYTHING WORKS!

I do actually give them points for the whole wheelbarrow of WTF that was Archie banging his teacher between freshman and sophomore years, though.

Date: 2017-03-03 05:25 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I am glad they squashed that squicky relationship. Part of me wanted her to face actual ramifications.... but she is also the victim of abuse herself... so I don't know...

Date: 2017-03-03 07:05 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
She says she is...I'm not convinced she's telling the truth. But unless she returns, I suppose it doesn't make a difference.

Date: 2017-03-03 07:09 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
ah.... now we get into murky territory.... women who are victims of abuse are rarely taken seriously. So I tend to take them at their word while at the same time, investigate it further because, A) if she is telling the truth, there is an abusive man out there who is still free B) she might not be telling the truth...

Date: 2017-03-03 09:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alicemacher
A factor that made me suspicious of her story (even though in real life my inclination is also to take such claims seriously pending investigation) is that after she leaves Riverdale, she's shown eyeing some teenage boys lustfully. And she's wearing the heart-shaped sunglasses the title character of Stanley Kubrick's Lolita adaptation wears in the poster... suggesting that "Ms Grundy" is a reverse Lolita.

Date: 2017-03-03 09:55 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Yeah...the fact that she left, meaning the show probably wouldn't be addressing it again had me thinking she was probably telling the truth...but then that 'Lolita'-inspired shot, and all the red flags returned.

Date: 2017-03-03 10:54 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (witch (sexy))
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
A factor that made me suspicious of her story (even though in real life my inclination is also to take such claims seriously pending investigation) is that after she leaves Riverdale, she's shown eyeing some teenage boys lustfully. And she's wearing the heart-shaped sunglasses the title character of Stanley Kubrick's Lolita adaptation wears in the poster... suggesting that "Ms Grundy" is a reverse Lolita.

That scene made me think that she was a gifted liar and actual predator.

Date: 2017-03-04 08:14 am (UTC)
liliaeth: (Default)
From: [personal profile] liliaeth
I'd say the fact that she tries to trick/scare her victim into silence, already proves that well enough on its own.

gifted liar and actual predator.

Date: 2017-03-04 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] 7dialsmystery
Yes, all of this.

Date: 2017-03-03 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Being the survivor of abuse does not fucking absolve her of becoming an abuser herself. She is continuing the cycle and preying on children.

It should not be a literal get out of jail free card.

Date: 2017-03-03 08:52 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
not saying that at all. Not at all. I want her to face the ramifications of her actions. She should be held to account. but I also think she needs to be treated for what she went through. Not just sent to prison. But sent to prison and being treated for her abuse as well.

Date: 2017-03-03 04:30 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I think I liked the Little Archie/Tiny Titans version better, where Ms. Grundy is married to Solomon Grundy.

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/26462/1826242-tt_grundys.jpg

Date: 2017-03-03 05:26 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
OMG

Date: 2017-03-04 12:12 am (UTC)
lamashtar: Snake says, "What?" (What?)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
O_o

Date: 2017-03-03 04:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dustbunny105
"[W]ho's lighting fireworks at six in the morning on July Fourth?"

... You're joking, right?

Date: 2017-03-03 08:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I was about to say, "Don't people wait until a little later?" Then remembered that fireworks for 5th November here sometimes start about mid October...

Date: 2017-03-03 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
You mean you don't get stragglers from the end of Eid?

Date: 2017-03-03 11:05 am (UTC)
lyricalswagger: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lyricalswagger
It's weird that the VW bug in the comics is a newer model than the one in the tv show.

Date: 2017-03-03 07:20 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Also weird that Archie seems to be a brunet, when he's a redhead, and in the show his hair is usually the most vivid colour on screen

Date: 2017-03-03 10:01 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Honestly, everyone's so far off model that I'm almost willing to wager 'Grundy' having a bug, and Fred having a beard elsewhere in the story, are pure coincidence. (Although I'm glad they gave Jug something closer to his canon hat, than the oddly cut knit cap he wears on the show...although that is growing on me...)

(And all the red-heads on the show have such striking hair... Cheryl is really the only one whose hair looks natural, and even hers is an unusually vivid shade.)

Date: 2017-03-03 11:00 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (batwoman (elegant))
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
Seems like the CW just bought the property and could have saved the dough and come up with original characters, though the comics rebooted recently after killing Archie off and now everything's more 'realistic', no books with titles like Pep or Laugh anymore.

And buying the Archie name draws in a lot of curious viewers, though it's pretty much the standard CW show: Twenty-and-thirtysomethings playing angst-ridden teenagers with Deep, Dark Secrets. And every one of 'em gorgeous!

Date: 2017-03-04 07:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chrisdv
It's a Netflix series outside of the US, so I think the funding may be split between the two - which would explain why it's a licensed property rather than a wholly original creation.

Date: 2017-03-04 09:46 pm (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
The comics didn't quite "kill Archie off," per se, and that happened years prior besides.

Date: 2017-03-04 10:26 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (hamburger (big mac))
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
The comics didn't quite "kill Archie off," per se, and that happened years prior besides.

*shrugs*

That's what I'd heard, killed him off then a total reboot. I'd also heard it was in 2014, not that long ago. Even though it was adult Archie, not teen Archie, they still killed him off as far as I can tell.. I suppose it was intended as a reboot to keep the memory of Classic Archie while updating him. .

Date: 2017-03-04 11:58 pm (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
In an alternate/possible future scenario, but they kept the original teenage stuff going up to about the time they did the reboot.

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