Date: 2017-03-03 05:40 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
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side note.
Does David have a boyfriend?
When did America become so... cheerful? (not saying it's bad, but she's usually a bit more about the business)
Was that a Peabody and Sherman reference?
Edited Date: 2017-03-03 05:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-03-04 12:12 am (UTC)
lyricalswagger: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lyricalswagger
I think it's because this is specifically meant to be off-duty America.

Re: Does David have a boyfriend?

Date: 2017-03-04 04:38 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I'm usually all about the subtext... but I don't see it here. They just seem like friends to me... I mean I think Prodigy mentioned having a thing for him... but I don't think he reciprocated

Date: 2017-03-03 05:58 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Yoshikage Kira as Kosaku Kawajiri, after the second arrow. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
I was going to grumble about the main character's glibness, but then two characters in a row called her on it, so it's good.

Date: 2017-03-03 06:29 pm (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
It still really didn't work for me. America just doesn't feel like the America we know at all.

Date: 2017-03-03 07:48 pm (UTC)
every_spiegel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] every_spiegel
Seconded. I can easily imagine Squirrel Girl here instead, for instance.

Date: 2017-03-03 07:17 pm (UTC)
informationgeek: (djpon3)
From: [personal profile] informationgeek
Holy menstruation, America!!


That's all I got out of this comic. Honestly, it's kind of generic, which is a shame for Marvel's first LGBT lead comic.

Date: 2017-03-03 09:58 pm (UTC)
mizerous: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mizerous
Felicia: America? I don't know her.

Date: 2017-03-03 07:44 pm (UTC)
every_spiegel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] every_spiegel
I have a feeling that some authors think only stupid can be funny. So when you want funny, your only choice is stupid. Meh.

Date: 2017-03-03 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Well it's nice that David is actually in something. And he's finally going to college.

It sure would be nice to see him interact with his mutant friends. But that would require Marvel to acknowledge any of them and give them attention instead of sociopathic little shits like Quentin Quire

Date: 2017-03-03 09:53 pm (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Aren't the majority of them dead?

Date: 2017-03-05 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Most of the ones who died were outside of the main cast and never received much development.

There should still over 2 dozen kids left around who've been ignored in the backround in favor of every writer choosing to focus on their own creations, who go on to get ignored by the next writer.

Date: 2017-03-05 04:11 am (UTC)
lieut_kettch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Does he even need to go to college though? He has the equivalent of at least 2 PhD's in his head (Hank McCoy and Charles Xavier's).

Date: 2017-03-05 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
He probably has more, what with the combined knowledge and skills of all of the X-men and anyone else he encountered before he lost his powers. But this school seems to have a curriculum specialized towards superhumans at the college level so at least it's new material for him to learn.

David has always recognized that his powers were a shortcut, and he's willing to put in the work to learn more so that he can make his own mark in the world. Before M-Day his goal was to go to Harvard.

But even beyond that college isn't just about the academics. It's a new setting where he can have new experiences of his own, to meet new people with varying perspectives, to apply everything he knows in new ways. It's a safe environment with mentors who will actually encourage him to innovate and improve on his knowledge.

Date: 2017-03-03 10:32 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: Deadpool with a Green Lantern power ring (What could go wrong?)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
...I didn't realize this was all about America Chavez, a character I hate.

She's slightly less annoying? But still annoying. In a more childish and generic way.

I feel this deserves another link to that "Everyone kills Hitler" on their first time travel trip story: http://www.tor.com/2011/08/31/wikihistory/

Date: 2017-03-04 01:07 am (UTC)
jaxjyls: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaxjyls
I thought I was the only one who hated her

Date: 2017-03-04 02:27 am (UTC)
lamashtar: "It's just like Hitlers!" (Hitler)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
How can anyone dislike Scrappy Doo? /s Admittedly, America getting called on her arrogant bull may be an example of Take That Scrappy, to make her more palatable to a wider audience.

Date: 2017-03-04 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Everybody loves Jar-Jar!

(Though actually I like America, and think she's brilliant.
Just not here.)

Date: 2017-03-03 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
That bit with the person reciting all of America's details so far.
It is the clunkiest.
It is so clunky it could be used to bludgeon.
It is so clunky it could be in a 60s B-movie. Tis how clunky it is.

And isn't it nice that America peppers her speech with gratuitous Spanish now?
Because otherwise nobody would ever know she's Hispanic.
Just... so... nice.

Date: 2017-03-03 10:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Well I can't say that it's bad, but this definitely ain't for me. I've never been into Marvel irreverent comedy books (Squirrel Girl being the most prominent one) so this is a little disappointing to me, but I'm sure some people will like it.

Anyway, I do agree with the sentiment that America's voice seems different from what we're used to, but I'm not surprised by the shift. The character's personality worked well in an ensemble, but for her to work as a solo protagonist she needs some measure of vulnerability, so this softening makes sense.
Edited Date: 2017-03-04 05:37 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-03-03 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] astrakhan42
Something really rubbed me the wrong way with this comic. It definitely felt like the work of someone who's never written a comic book before. The entire recap page was repeated by the characters about six pages later and the word balloons contain way too much text.* All of the characters and backstory beats scream out to me that the author has done her research on the character and wants to prove it to us.

(*In fairness, comics professionals do this too. I'm looking at you Robert Kirkman.)

Tonally it reminds me of Lumberjanes... and I really, really dislike Lumberjanes, enough that reviewing it for Collected Editions (http://collectededitions.blogspot.com/2016/02/review-lumberjanes-vol-1-beware-kitten-holy.html) broke some of my desire to continue reviewing.

I had high hopes for this book but I'm not continuing to the next issue. While I admire Marvel's attempts to recruit more diverse talent, they also needed to rein in some of the amateur notes. This isn't just about Gabby Rivera either--I've seen some of the same problems in Ta-Nehisi Coates' "Black Panther", Jodi Picoult's "Wonder Woman" and a lot of other comics by novelists. They need editors who are more willing to step in and modify the writers' words to fit the medium.

Date: 2017-03-03 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] onsokumaru
I felt that way too (the similarity with Lumberjanes)
If it wasn't for the need to get my New X-Men fix (something that X-books don't provide anymore), I would not give a chance to issue #2.

Date: 2017-03-03 11:57 pm (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Agreed. Sometimes it feels like when they recruit from outside sources, they need to give the writers a few pointers on how to write for the comics audience. I dropped Coates' Black Panther because it didn't "sound" right, as much as I wanted to like it.

Date: 2017-03-03 11:54 pm (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
After hearing about this series, I went and bought the author's book, Juliet Takes a Breath, and really enjoyed it. I think she has an excellent handle on what it is to be queer and Latina in today's society, and I'm excited that she has a chance to take that to comics with the only character who really fits that description on such a level.

The pacing is rushed--this is easily 2-3 issues worth of stuff happening, set-up, and development all rolled into the first installment. I'd have liked to see it slowed down a little.

The dialogue is clunky at times, and there's more repetition than necessary, especially with regards to describing America and her role.

Some of the elements just feel a bit too comically off-beat, like Sonia Sotomeyer University (would they really name it after someone who's alive and well?) and the Leeludallas dance team and well, just the fact that this is a place we've never even seen hints of before. Logical to exist in the Marvel U. sure, but it feels like some of the other "special" schools that never get used, like the ones introduced in Infinity Contest of Champions or whatever it was called a while back.

But I really enjoyed it, and I;m glad it exists. I hope the writer finds her groove and that we can at least get a good 6-12 issues out of this. :)

Date: 2017-03-04 12:02 am (UTC)
katefan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] katefan
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<<But I really enjoyed it, and I;m glad it exists. I hope the writer finds her groove and that we can at least get a good 6-12 issues out of this. :) >>

Welcome to the land of lowered expectations where we expect a comic not featuring a character who is appearing in a major motion picture won't get more than a twelve issue run. And no, I'm not at all bitter that they canceled Mockingbird, why do you ask?

Date: 2017-03-04 03:25 am (UTC)
beyondthefringe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
I'm just used to Marvel delivering series that can fit into one or two traders before the inevitable cancellation and/or reboot and/or next season. True ongoings which last indefinitely are far and few between at this point, it seems.

Date: 2017-03-04 12:14 am (UTC)
lyricalswagger: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lyricalswagger
I like MAC and I like this first issue. I'm hoping it gets better from there, and hopefully crosses over with Hawkeye at some point.

Date: 2017-03-04 03:44 am (UTC)
lieut_kettch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Wait. America should know David has no powers. They were Young Avengers together post M-Day.

Date: 2017-03-04 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] aperturedreams
But she does know, that's what she's saying.

Date: 2017-03-04 07:35 am (UTC)
malitia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] malitia
I was ready to be disappointed in many things about this book, but the thing bothering me most turned out to be... the coloring. (Feels flat and lifeless to me... and now I remembered what it reminds me off: the coloring of Gillen's Young Avengers, which I also didn't like.)

Yeah. The pacing is fast too... I was honestly wishing for a purple prose narrator for full on Bronze Age effect (I liked the Bronze Age, sue me).

Date: 2017-03-04 03:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dustbunny105
I was really excited for this book but what I've seen of the first issue doesn't inspire me to pick it up. America's voice is off and the writing is clunky. Fingers crossed it hits its groove. I'll be looking for the trade.

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