Date: 2017-03-17 02:52 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Not gonna lie, this was the series that made me warm up to Quentin Quire.

Date: 2017-03-17 04:03 pm (UTC)
flint_marko: (Cyclops)
From: [personal profile] flint_marko
He felt unrecognizable to me.

Date: 2017-03-17 05:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crinos
Well considering he was originally conceived as a drug abusing mutant supremacist who patterned his look after that artists depiction of Mutant overlords propaganda from the Silver Age X-men, beat a guy to death with his cronies, and then tried to take over the school, then went ahead and kicked off the X-men schism by attacking the UN and making everyone blab about their secret Sentinel cache.... I would say making him unrecognizable was a vast improvement.

Hell, maybe that's the reason I do like him now.

Date: 2017-03-17 05:55 pm (UTC)
flint_marko: (Cyclops)
From: [personal profile] flint_marko
Then why not just make a new character if you're going to change him that much? It's not like Quire was a character with decades of history to keep track of; it was just Riot at Xavier's, Endsong, and a short story in Nation X.

I wouldn't mind if Aaron had kept his original characterization, and then had him change and grow, but just giving him a new personality right off the bat seems sloppy.

And Jason Aaron was the guy who had Quire attack the UN and start the schism right before, so his role here just feels like mood whiplash.

Date: 2017-03-17 06:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] every_spiegel
I feel you bro. I happened to read this series before New X-Men, Endsong etc., and it seemed very weird when I got to Quire's origin. I still love him in every comics I see him :D But that was one strange character retcon (with a bit of de-aging though I'm never sure with all the different art styles).

Date: 2017-03-17 05:05 pm (UTC)
randyripoff: (Butterworm)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
Yup. He went from unlikeable snot to ...likeable snot, I guess.

Date: 2017-03-17 05:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bizarrohulk
The only thing I hate more than super-genius child heroes is super-genius child villains.

Date: 2017-03-17 05:29 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Yeah, this new Hellfire club felt like it was... trying too hard. Its like "Hi, we're gonna destroy your school because fuck you apparently." And they're all horrible little shits and do awful stuff just because. Its like if Hogwarts opened up its doors to all superhumans instead of just magic users and this was the 2017 Slytheren class.

Date: 2017-03-17 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rzerox21xx
I especially hate the hellfire kids white queen and how they have to point out or show her various acts of animal Cruelty but thats the animal lover in me talking.

Date: 2017-03-17 06:52 pm (UTC)
every_spiegel: (DOOM)
From: [personal profile] every_spiegel
I think their corniness works here (I really enjoyed Hellfire School arc).
Then I saw Wilhelmina in other Aaron run, The Mighty Thor, and there she was... well, we have a saying in Russian I can't find a good analogue in English: like a cock on one's forehead.

Date: 2017-03-18 12:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
Yeah. I liked a lot else about this run, but the Hellfire kids were little shits I just wanted to smack.

Date: 2017-03-18 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] onsokumaru
Ah, yeah... That issue where people like Armor are hiding behind Husk while Quentin Quire saves the day.
My headcannon is that Wolverine told Rachel to turn all the students into chickens, so they wouldn't fight. Except Quentin because he was immune to that and Idie because Logan respected her too much to brainwash her.


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