Date: 2017-04-12 10:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Honestly self-policing (with apparently multiple authorities- Avengers and X-men) doesn't sound so bad... depending on how it's handled of course.

If Xavier as superhuman police officer is just checking and making sure everything's clear and setting up a contact point, that's fine. If he tries to strongarm or such, then there's gonna be problems ^^

Date: 2017-04-12 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Mutants did have a self-policing phase, just before House of M.
Storm's X.S.E.

Went pretty well, all things considered.
(Though why Storm decided to let Wolverine have legal authority, no-one'll ever know...)

Date: 2017-04-12 07:11 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Yea. As long as there's not a big event about it, it works fine!

Date: 2017-04-12 03:14 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Charles.... tends to... well strong arm isn't the word... he manipulates... it seems it's second nature to him now.

Date: 2017-04-12 09:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bj_l
He has always been manipulative. It's not a new thing.

Date: 2017-04-12 11:16 am (UTC)
informationgeek: (PinkiePie)
From: [personal profile] informationgeek
You know what? I've been looking at these scans for this series for a while and... it looks like a lot of fun! I'm going to totally pick up the trade in the future. Like with current Superman, this is the kind of Spider-Man series I can get behind! :)

Date: 2017-04-12 12:36 pm (UTC)
amaniwolf: (Galactus)
From: [personal profile] amaniwolf
Agreed!

Date: 2017-04-12 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I will never understand the Jean/Wolverine thing.

Date: 2017-04-12 07:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Good girls want bad boys. Or something.

Date: 2017-04-12 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] remial
short violent hairy dudes wanting to get with hot leggy red heads? I get it.
or did you mean the other way around?

Date: 2017-04-13 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
What woman wouldn't want an ugly short hairy man with rage issues who smells of beer, cigars, and death?

I just don't get his thing for gingers.

Date: 2017-04-14 03:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glprime
With the recton in Origin, it makes more sense (Rose being his caretaker, 1st companion). Going back to earlier stories, he ran into Heather Hudson (and her husband) shortly after escaping Weapon X and his memory was still kinda wonky. So between Jean and her, he imprints on redheads being kind, empathetic people.

Leastways that's how I take it.
Edited Date: 2017-04-14 03:07 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-12 12:25 pm (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
Huh.

This is a pretty interesting take on the Xavier school and Cyclops in particular. Where is our divergence point, here? Did Cyclops stay with Maddie here? Someone else?

Date: 2017-04-12 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I thought OMD was the cutoff (though these scans make me think Civil War). Of course, at the time Jubilee had no powers, Prof X was mostly sidelined, and Jean was dead. Granted power shakeups in the X-Men are pretty common and Jean comes back from the dead a lot (surprised "our" Jean is still dead.)

I doubt they'll go this way because this isn't an X-Book but what if this "Jean" is Maddie?


Date: 2017-04-12 12:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] servant_iskandar
Didn't have a chance to check the issue directly (yet, at least), but if I remember correctly Emma is supposed to turn up during this narrative arc.

I trust Conway and Co. to handle this well and deliver a good portrayal of Ms. Frost - I figure she'll be the one reaching out to Scott, getting him out of his funk and segueing into this universe's version of their relationship.
And that would make it the second couple Renew Your Vows brought back from the ashes (the first being Peter and MJ, of course; Logan and Jean seem to actually work here, and Kate is indeed cute, but it's closer to fandom in flavor).

Also, I think Charles is almost certainly acting to protect the children. Cyclops does have a point, however, because the world governments essentially did get their cake and eat it too, and while the Professor apparently means well, it sounds more like compromise rather than cooperation between equals. Personal issues aside, Scott likely feels that Charles shouldn't have been allowed to "sell them out" in exchange for getting acceptance and approval from the majority.

IMHO, they're clearly going all the way back to the vision of the X-Men narrative as a parable for civil rights. And by the way, if Jubilee's words are anything to go by, the divide between Homo Sapiens Superior and the "normals" is stronger than before, on both sides of the fence.
Edited Date: 2017-04-12 01:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-12 08:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] spider_man6
Oh my gosh! Ryan Stegman's art is so good!
I've always had a soft spot for Jean and wolverine as a couple, but to have a kid? That's a nice touch.

Date: 2017-04-12 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rzerox21xx
Gerry Conway actually teased me about it. by the way wasnt there a theory comewhere that Rachel being such a good tracker as a hound sorta give a hint that she may not be Scott and Jean kid but Logans. I heard it somewhere. I'm surprised the little girl is not named Rachel(probably for the best, I wouldnt want the RYV head to Days of Future Past)

Date: 2017-04-12 11:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
It was a fan theory that showed up after Hound Scott couldn't track Rachel for Ahab. Ahab commented that as a blood relative he should have been able to track her. Fans immediately jumped to Wolverine was her dad while Claremont was planning for the reveal that she had no father. She was supposedly going to be the child of Jean and the Phoenix Force.

Date: 2017-04-13 09:32 am (UTC)
servant_iskandar: (Default)
From: [personal profile] servant_iskandar
IMHO, I'm not that surprised: Xavier and Jean are quite possibly Logan's strongest anchors, with Kurt, Kitty and Jubes trailing just behind.

Now, at least four of them are visibly alive and well and Kate being named after Kitty might just be an affectionate gesture towards a member of their extended family, rather than a way to honor a fallen comrade.

At the very least, I hope this is the case, given the usually upbeat, nurturing take of the series on the themes of parenthood and children growing into their own.

Date: 2017-04-14 09:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chalicother
Man, I really hope this story really gives a good reason for Spiderling to not go to the school, as it is suggesting its going to go.

Date: 2017-04-16 06:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
It does raise a question of what makes a mutant. I remember them being similarly coy with whether or not Mayday was one.

I think we can assume Logan and Jean's daughter is named after Kitty?

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