Date: 2017-04-19 09:31 pm (UTC)
flint_marko: (Default)
From: [personal profile] flint_marko
That doesn't seem too likely after this week's Thunderbolts.

Date: 2017-04-19 11:56 pm (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Haven't been reading Thunderbolts, honestly. The voices felt off and the art gives me bad '90s flashbacks. What happened?

Date: 2017-04-20 02:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
Zemo showed up at the 'Bolts' base with the Masters of Evil. Moonstone and Fixer threw in with him, Atlas did as well but may be faking it, Songbird is stuck in the Arctic, Mach-9 might be but probably isn't dead, and Zemo stuck Kobik in a machine that was intended to remove her sentience and turn her into a "normal" Cosmic Cube. It blew up and scattered pieces of Cube hither and yon, all but one of which were apparently easily recovered.

Date: 2017-04-20 06:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
That's it? Energy beings blow up all the time. That does remove an easy fix for the heroes to stop Secret Empire, but Kobik is only out of the picture until the writers decide she's back.

Date: 2017-04-20 03:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flint_marko
You can say that about any character who's gone, but as of right now there's no Kobik to bring him back.

And while I'm sure we'll get a Red Skull back eventually, I don't think it'll be until Secret Empire has been over for a bit, and it'll either be a new character or the original who was killed in CA: Reborn.

Date: 2017-04-20 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
hell, getting it fixed up will probably be the fix to Secret Empire

Date: 2017-04-21 06:02 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Selvig also made so Kobik could come back.

Date: 2017-04-20 04:32 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
But then in this week's Captain America: Steve Rogers, Selvig made it so Kobik could come back.

Date: 2017-04-21 01:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
Ghost scoops up Songbird, and yeah, Selvig makes it so Kobik could come back (SIGH) right before he's shot IIRC.

Date: 2017-04-21 06:00 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Nah, Ghost scoops up Jolt, Songbird walks away on her own.

Date: 2017-04-21 08:40 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
//facepalm

I blame the art.

Date: 2017-04-20 12:09 am (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Selvig did give her a chance to reform again, so it doesn't seem like she's gone for good.

They also need her to set everything right anyway.

Date: 2017-04-20 03:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flint_marko
If she's going to fix things, that would probably mean she'd have realized HYDRA is wrong and wouldn't want to bring back the Skull.

Date: 2017-04-20 04:30 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
That depends on the order of events.

It wouldn't be an issue if first she brings back Skull, then realizes Hydra are actually evil.

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