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"The trick is that Marvel has always been to a large extent the world around us. It has to be evocative of the world around us, the feelings people are feeling. At the same time, it’s a superhero comic, so you take real-world concerns and you put a Marvel face on it." -- Mark Waid

Date: 2017-04-24 02:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tugrul
I really like The Freelancers as villains. I don't know why. They're just so selfish. Truly terrible people. They make good baddies against the Champions.

Date: 2017-04-24 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Sometimes it is just nice to have villains who are self-proclaimed assholes.

Date: 2017-04-24 03:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
like, world domination is fine and all that. Some people just want to watch the world burn. Some are just assholes that don't care if the world burns or not, so long as it gives them shits and giggles.

Date: 2017-04-24 03:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
Eh, personally I prefer that if your going to have a gang of teenage villains that they be in some way sympathetic. Because I think Teens Are Monsters is just a garbage trope.

Date: 2017-04-24 04:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
It's less painful here since we have genuinely heroic teens as our leads.

Date: 2017-04-24 04:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reveen
That's actually part of the problem for me? There's a lot of scenarios in fiction where you have a good team of teenagers and a bad team of teenagers. The good team are all nice and well adjusted, the bad team are all socially maladjusted, have nasty personal problems or are part of some scary fashion niche. Comics and cartoons did this all the time in the past and I hate it.

It all amounts to adult writers projecting their own biases and unwillingness to understand why teenage years are so rough for a lot people.

Not saying that this is what's happening here, but for me it's a warning sign.

Date: 2017-04-24 04:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
It's a Mark Waid comic. He applies the same thing to adults as well.

Date: 2017-04-29 05:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
Except they aren't teens, the Freelancers are all old enough to drink.

Plus their thing is that they mainly care about money, plenty of adult Mercs that fit that role too.

Date: 2017-04-24 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Eh, I give it a year before Roxxon ofrsomeone cheats the Freelancers and they team up with the Champions against their common enemy
Edited Date: 2017-04-24 04:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-25 01:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
I definitely put them in the love to hate column.

Though overall, I find their brand of small, petty evil to be way more uncomfortable than the more overt villainy of would-be world conquerors or even bank robbers with ray guns.

Date: 2017-04-24 02:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
There was an article in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill indy paper (called, appropriately enough, The Indy) about Durham showing up in this ish of Champions, which can be seen here.

Date: 2017-04-24 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] astrakhan42
The dude with the floppy hair and big feet with a clipboard in Manchester Alabama... oh hai Bart Allen. I see what you did there, Waid and Ramos.

Date: 2017-04-24 03:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thanekos
I was hoping the Champions' opposite would just be Roxxon's internship program, but " cheerful sufferers of affluenza-but-for-super-capabilities " works too.

Date: 2017-04-24 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
You would think by this point the law enforcement agencies of the Marvel universe should have a system of some kind for when superheroes are accused of attacking someone.
Like, how many times have bad guys tried the whole "frame the heroes" schtick?

Of course, this would require the people of the Marvel universe to not be complete idiots.

Date: 2017-04-24 04:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
To be fair, I don't really see that sort of system in DC either, though that sort of thing doesn't happen quite as much there.


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